read new follow 86382 19-MAR 12:56 General Information RE: MM/1A Mouse Mysteries Revealed?? (Re: Msg 86372) From: KSCALES To: DIETER > I have a Logitech TrackMan Mouse on my MM/1a, and it works fine, just > have problems with KVED, Kved dont seam to want to recognice the number 1 > butten on the mouse... Dieter - That's a bug in the original Windio for the MM/1a. Not many programs use Windio's internal "pushbutton" gadgets; that's why you only are noticing the problem with KVed. Joel Hegberg's "calculator" is also broken with this version of the driver, as is OST, the KVed-like GUI for OSTerm. I understood that Windio V51 fixed the problem, but since I don't have an MM/1a, I cannot verify this myself. Regards... / Ken -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237 More? Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86388 19-MAR 16:18 General Information RE: MM/1A Mouse Mysteries Revealed?? (Re: Msg 86382) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: KSCALES > I understood that Windio V51 fixed the problem, but since I don't have > an MM/1a, I cannot verify this myself. My mouse (An Identity Systems Trackball set in "PC" mode) works fine with KVed and OST work fine on my MM/1a system (using WindIO #51). ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions "Always in motion is the future." - Yoda Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86438 21-MAR 02:04 General Information RE: MM/1A Mouse Mysteries Revealed?? (Re: Msg 86382) From: DIETER To: KSCALES > I understood that Windio V51 fixed the problem, but since I don't have > an MM/1a, I cannot verify this myself. > Thanks! Have already requested the new windio 51 from BlackHawk Enterprises! Dieter Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86446 21-MAR 20:49 General Information RE: MM/1A Mouse Mysteries Revealed?? (Re: Msg 86438) From: NIMITZ To: DIETER Currently, windio51 update disks are holding on 68340 sound drivers, which are under development. That developement was delayed by nature. (lightning strike!), but is back underway and I expect to ship within another month. These will cost $15 each, as our capital is too low to afford free updates currently. David M. Graham BlackHawk Enterprises, Inc. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86383 19-MAR 15:10 General Information POP (windows on fly) errors From: JWILKERSON To: ALL the pop command, as found in DB here for some reason porks after I try to use the pconfig utility. i want to change the colors on the window pop creats, but every attempt has led to an error message instead of a window being created..... any ideas? Seeya -- John FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86384 19-MAR 15:19 Applications (6809) RE: Multi-Vue Up and Running (Re: Msg 86333) From: ISC To: THETAURUS Hey, Chris, You need to configure your Application Information Files before programs will load from double-clicking the icon. The info is on page 9-22 of the manual . P.S. Let me know if you are able to use all of the G-Shell patches. I have had trouble doing that. Bill Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86457 22-MAR 00:59 Applications (6809) RE: Multi-Vue Up and Running (Re: Msg 86355) From: THETAURUS To: RICKULAND (NR) >> Install Kent's gshell. Well, I guess we can scratch THAT one off the list for now. It don't work :-/ The file asks for the path of the gshell.pat file, and when I give it the pathname, it just keeps asking me again. I need the source, since it probably is an infinite loop problem but it's not uncluded :-( >>Get a faster hard drive. Hehe, that will come up eventually anyhow. I have my old Seagate 20 megger and it is only a matter of time before I give Ken-Ton a call to replace it. Anyhow, in a later message Bill told me all double click files need an aif file to go with them, which I didn't know was necessary. I hate the idea of making a ton of AIF's tho. >Chris< Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86459 22-MAR 00:59 Applications (6809) RE: Multi-Vue Up and Running (Re: Msg 86384) From: THETAURUS To: ISC (NR) >>The info is on page 9-22 of the manual Ok, rub it in, rub it in...;-) >Ignorant< :-) Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86460 22-MAR 01:06 Applications (6809) RE: Multi-Vue Up and Running (Re: Msg 86459) From: CHYDE To: THETAURUS There are several files in the data base here that have icons and AIF files for many CoCo programs along with generic types. I think they're in the applications area. Chris Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86461 22-MAR 20:34 Applications (6809) RE: Multi-Vue Up and Running (Re: Msg 86460) From: THETAURUS To: CHYDE (NR) Thanks Chris...I'm gonna check into that :-) I remember seeing them so many times before and saying, "One day I'll have a use for these." I had sinse forgot about them. >Chris< FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86385 19-MAR 15:38 Games & Graphics RE: CGP220 AND HOME PUBLISHER (Re: Msg 10019) From: ISC To: SPENCELEPLEY (NR) Spence, Have you tried Radio Shack help line? Some time ago I got them to rewrite the DMP-130A driver for Home Pub. for me so that it would work on my DMP-107. It is a long-distance call, but here is the number: (817) 878-6890. Bill Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86386 19-MAR 15:43 Games & Graphics RE: CGP220 AND HOME PUBLISHER (Re: Msg 41694) From: ISC To: WOAY (NR) Gene, Does that w3HP printer driver disk include the HP Deskjet 500? Bill Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86398 20-MAR 00:12 Games & Graphics RE: CGP220 AND HOME PUBLISHER (Re: Msg 86385) From: WDTV5 To: ISC Spence, There is an extra disk of drivers available which does have the driver for the CGP-220 on it. Contact the software folks in Ft. Worth, or possibly Spectral Associates, 4633 South 348th Street, Auburn WA 98001 who were the original vendors for HP stuffs, resold thru Tandy. -=Gene=- Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86399 20-MAR 00:17 Games & Graphics RE: CGP220 AND HOME PUBLISHER (Re: Msg 86386) From: WDTV5 To: ISC Hi Bill, no, sorry it doesn't. Lemme see if I can direct a 'dir' here nope, anyway, the list is "prn.KXP1090", "prn.CGP220n", "prn.StarSG10", "prn.DMP110n", "prn.DMP110s", "prn.CITOH8510", "prn.Oki20" & "prn.EpsMX80" so the disk isn't too full, and I can't recall what I paid for it 4 years ago or more. Sorry 8*( -=Gene=- FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86387 19-MAR 15:52 System Modules (6809) RE: Grfdrv Patch (Re: Msg 86290) From: NEALSTEWARD To: MITHELEN Relax and drink a homebrew!!! I thought this was the place to ask questions. Beside the documentation doesn't explain how to use a patch. I hope you have better days... Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86392 19-MAR 20:52 System Modules (6809) RE: Grfdrv Patch (Re: Msg 86387) From: MITHELEN To: NEALSTEWARD (NR) wish I could have a homebrew... but, I;m all out... haven't been able to brew since last July... much too busy... I got to get something done before Fest though... which is coming up way too quick. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86389 19-MAR 17:33 General Information RE: OS9 for the Macintosh (Re: Msg 86375) From: JRUPPEL To: PAGAN Stephen, Do you have a Snail Mail address for this outfit? I and a couple of my cronies here in Michigan are very interested! Thanks! John Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86402 20-MAR 03:14 General Information RE: OS9 for the Macintosh (Re: Msg 86389) From: PAGAN To: JRUPPEL John, >Do you have a Snail Mail address for this outfit? I and a couple of my >cronies here in Michigan are very interested! No, but I will post a message to them via internet and, if they get back to me, I'll post it to you here on the forum. Stephen (PAGAN) Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86407 20-MAR 08:09 General Information RE: OS9 for the Macintosh (Re: Msg 86389) From: JOHNREED To: JRUPPEL > Stephen, > Do you have a Snail Mail address for this outfit? I and a couple of my cronies > here in Michigan are very interested! > Thanks! > John > This is old info -- from a package of info they mailed to me after a Chicago CoCoFest four years ago. The package included a brochure on OS9 for the Mac. Ultrascience A Division of Gibbs Laboratories, Inc 1824 Wilmette Avenue Wilmette, IL 60091 TEL: 708/256-0080 FAX: 708/256-0097 More? Hope it helps. (Michigan? where in Michigan? -- Saginaw here) ******************************** "Don't take life too serious - it ain't nohow permanent" (Pogo) John R. Wainwright <> <> FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86390 19-MAR 19:23 Telecom (6809) RE: Telecom (Re: Msg 86374) From: DENNYWRIGHT To: DIETER Actually I discovered the problem to be an old clock module I installed in the new boot. I replaced it with the new edition nine clock module and it's back to normal now. Thanks! FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86391 19-MAR 20:19 Telecom (6809) RS-232 Hacks From: DBREEDING To: MITHELEN Hey, Paul... qot a few questions on fast CoCo mods.. I grabbed Hi-speed patch material you posted, so I'll address them to you. It made for some real fascinating stuff... but I'm wondering if one might be able to bypass doing the CTS-DSR mod. I don't suppose it would be that much of a problem, but I wonder if there might be a case where it might interfere with anything. If it is made, what is the best way to do it, inside the Modem Pak or in the cable. If the cable is modified, it will be necessary to be sure and not get it backwards. One other note.. You mentioned that Randy patched the andcc #^Intmasks at label TimedSlp?? This would be a bug in the original version of SACIA?? In the ipatch version I got with supercomm, the patch was not made. -- David Breeding -- *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ More? Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86393 19-MAR 21:00 Telecom (6809) RE: RS-232 Hacks (Re: Msg 86391) From: MITHELEN To: DBREEDING As with all thing that I did that were CoCo related.. it was a long time ago... ok... not that long.. but.. I don't have enough brain cells left to retain all that info... but... the way I like to do them kind of line swamp hacks.. is to get a little adaptor that you can pull apart, and rewire it to what your need, and label it appropiately... then you don't have to hack your nice cables. The only possible interferance you might have, is if you want to also have swamped DSR DCD operation. Not sure if that was taken into account.... more then likely, that mode won't work. Taht other patch from Randy. Not totally sure on it.. maybe Randy can elaborate... Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86396 19-MAR 23:01 Telecom (6809) RE: RS-232 Hacks (Re: Msg 86391) From: RANDYKWILSON To: DBREEDING David, Yes, the TimedSlp routine had an error in the interupt unmasking. I reported this finding to a few people, Paul included. Then, as I learned more about how OS-9 really worked (read disasm :), I found that this "bug" was totally harmless. The os covered for it anyway. So I forgot about it. The ipatch file that can with SuperComm may or may not have the correction in it. Doesn't really matter. If I were running a BBS, I would swap DSRwith either DCD or CTS, depending on which I deemed more important. You can not do both at the same time. The problems all arrise from the 6551 design. It was built with some "smarts" to it. Unforch, current telecom technics go very contrary to how the 6551 was programmed. DSR is the only line that can change state without affecting the uart's behavior. Use it where it does the most good. Everyone note that the last set of patches, upload by Paul, force Sacia to do RTS/DSR handshake. If you do not switch DSR and CTS, you can not use this version. But I did disasm this patch, and the DSR handling appears to be the More? only changes beyond what is included with SuperComm v2.2. \randy Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86403 20-MAR 03:56 Telecom (6809) RE: RS-232 Hacks (Re: Msg 86396) From: MITHELEN To: RANDYKWILSON Ya.. what Randy said... Also... note that a lot of "modern" modems, that would require use os the hardware handshakeing, also support a special &C mode (usually &C2) which holds DCD high, while awaiting for an incoming call, then, after a connection has been established, and the real carrier is droped, it lowers DCD for a few seconds, so the system can detect the carrier drop, and then brings it high again for the next call... This mode is available on my Hayes Optima 96, and my new Zypcom Z32b. Don't klnow what other modems support it... This mode comes in real handy when running av BBS, and your want reliable hardware handshakeing AND you want to be able to read the CONNECT messages, AND detect Carrier drops. Too bad I don't have my modified SAcia source anymore... Although, I think the docs vwith the patch file documented all the source changes pretty well... -- Paul Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86420 20-MAR 18:37 Telecom (6809) RE: RS-232 Hacks (Re: Msg 86396) From: DBREEDING To: RANDYKWILSON Thanks for the reply.. I really appreciate you fellows trying to get this through my thick skull.. However, from your talk RE: substituting CTS, I kinda get the inference that this might apply only to one operating a BBS. Is this the case? If so, I am not planning on operating a BBS. What I want to do is be able to use my Hayes Optima 24 using V.42bis. If I understand this, I should theoretically be able to set my CoCo to 9600 (if it can handle it) and hook up. In this light, then, will I need to perform the hardware hacks? Really, I would be happy with the coco @ 4800, as I can see a terrific improvement even there (using XON/XOFF flow control). (My coco is a 6309 using Powerboost.) One other thing I wonder about.. What's the best way to handle downloads with a compression-capable modem? To the best of my knowledge, we (coco'ists) do not have a non-error-correction download protocol, so what do we do?.. link up with correction turned off or just leave it turned on? Boy! all this really seems complicated . Of course I can find out More? some of this stuff by trial-and-error, but hate to do it here... Them and my phone co. like to charge me -- David Breeding -- *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86421 20-MAR 18:37 Telecom (6809) RE: RS-232 Hacks (Re: Msg 86396) From: DBREEDING To: RANDYKWILSON One other thought.. There has been quite a bit of talk about how "buggy", I guess you'd call it, the 6551 is... Is there any chip that could be directly substituted for this one? I'm assuming that when the 6551 is referred to that the 6551"A" has the same problems? -- David Breeding -- *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86430 20-MAR 22:51 Telecom (6809) RE: RS-232 Hacks (Re: Msg 86421) From: RANDYKWILSON To: DBREEDING The DSR <-> CTS swap is desirable if you are in a position where you are sending a lot faster than the other end can recieve. I personally never bothered with it. I ran the modem on a 6551 with hardware handshake, fully v42.bis enabled, and port speed set to 9600. To download, I typically used ymodem batch, except for Delphi where I use Zmodem. No, there is no direct replacement for the 6551 that cures all the design misfeatures. One brand (Harris I think) fixes the CTS bug, but none fix the DTR/RTS control and DCD logic handling. To do this would require a completely different uart, and board. CoNect is working on just such an item. Randy Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86436 21-MAR 00:28 Telecom (6809) RE: RS-232 Hacks (Re: Msg 86430) From: DBREEDING To: RANDYKWILSON > To summarize your reply: the CTS<->DSR swap probably will not be needed. OK, that's what I seemed to be getting from the conversation. I'll try it like that at first. It seems that it might be a good idea to try to find that Harris uart. Just tore into my RS232 pak today. It has a straight 6551, and just my luck, it's soldered in . I was in contact with Terry Laraway today (he has 6309's, MPI upgrades, and other stuff, if anyone is interested. (guesss it would be alright to post his address here wouldn't it?). I'm gonna get a MPI upgrade from him and think I'll go ahead and get a 6551A from him. I had the MPI and the pak on before, and didn't seem to have any probs with it, but may go ahead and upgrade at least the MPI anyway. Not sure about the 6551 yet. May try without it first. Thanks for your patient responses. -- David Breeding -- More? *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86394 19-MAR 21:49 General Information Delphi Email Problem? From: KSCALES To: ALL Has anyone else encountered a problem tonight with Delphi Email? I have received a message during my logins that there are 7 messages waiting, but when I go into Email I get a message: Error searching for GV_8:[VMSMAIL]VMSMAIL_PROFILE.DATA; Insufficient privilege or file protection violation This is followed by a bunch of information that looks like a system dump. I tried to leave a report to the Delphi folks via "Using Delphi"/"Service", but receive the same system dump when the system goes to save the message. Thanks... / Ken Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86395 19-MAR 22:57 General Information RE: Delphi Email Problem? (Re: Msg 86394) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: KSCALES I had the same problem earlier this evening. Seems to have cleared up now. ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions "Always in motion is the future." - Yoda Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86397 19-MAR 23:18 General Information RE: Delphi Email Problem? (Re: Msg 86394) From: JEVESTAL To: KSCALES > Has anyone else encountered a problem tonight with Delphi Email? I have > received a message during my logins that there are 7 messages waiting, > but when I go into Email I get a message: > Error searching for GV_8:[VMSMAIL]VMSMAIL_PROFILE.DATA; > Insufficient privilege or file protection violation > > This is followed by a bunch of information that looks like a system dump. > > I tried to leave a report to the Delphi folks via "Using > Delphi"/"Service", but receive the same system dump when the system goes > to save the message. > Thanks... / Ken Thanks for posting, I thought I was going insane there for a while, glad that I'm not the only one. Yes I have the exact same problem, I hope it clears up tonight. Jim More? ======================== InfoXpress 01.01.00 OS-9/6809 ======================= | Narnia BBS: 24 hours serving CoCo OS-9 users ----|---- StG network: sysop@Narnia "Exclusively OS-9" | InfoNet: JEVestal@ins.infonet.net Marysville, CA Internet: JEVestal@narnia.citrus.sac.ca.us | Compuserve: 74044,3324 | Delphi: JEVestal (916) 743-2617 Voice: (916) 743-4264:1 Corinthians 1:18 & Romans 1:16 ============================================================================== Jim Vestal: Assistant editor of The International OS-9 Underground, "Magazine dedicated to OS-9/OSK Users Everywhere" FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86400 20-MAR 02:15 Telecom (6809) RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86288) From: DIETER To: CBJ > But I said that the CoCo wasn't capable of 9600 baud as a stock system. If > it is modified then it isn't stock. I didn't say it wasn't wise to modify it, > just that in stock form it couldn't handle it. Best wishes, > Carl > You are right! q Dieter Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86401 20-MAR 02:16 Telecom (6809) RE: SandV BBS (Re: Msg 86289) From: DIETER To: CBJ > Actually I've tried the mods...they didn't work on my Comm 4 board. Paul > Jerkatis can testify to that. I'll probably try them again now that I'll > be having some free time soon. > Carl > Do'nt know about the Comm 4 board, I use the Ken_Ton Dual RS-232 port and have good luck with it, all line are supported on that board! Dieter Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86404 20-MAR 03:58 Telecom (6809) RE: SandV BBS (Re: Msg 86401) From: MITHELEN To: DIETER The Comm-4 is basically 4 standard RS-232 packs mashed onto one board. What's weird is, I changed the ACIAs on my Comm-4.. and it worked no problem. but, when putting the exct same ACIAs int Carls Comm-4, it didn't work (in fact, i think it made it unusable). -- Paul Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86441 21-MAR 11:04 Telecom (6809) RE: SandV BBS (Re: Msg 86401) From: CBJ To: DIETER All the lines are supported on the COMM4 board as well. The board that Boisy sold worked with the new chips just fine....the one I had wouldn't. I am going to take you up on the offer of buying the chips and caps. Could you get 4 chips and the caps needed and write down exactly what is needed to be done for the modification the way you did it? Right now I have a '486 a terminal and 2 modems on the COMM4. The modems are 2400 and the terminal is set at 9600. The '486 is set to 4800. On the other port of the '486 I have a 14,400 modem that really screams now that I have a high speed serial port board installed. It is set at 57,600 between the modem and computer! Now all I need is to get a SCSI hard drive for the system ('486) and OS-9000 will get installed. Really need a SVGA monitor as well but I can live with VGA for now. Best wishes, Carl FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86405 20-MAR 05:02 Programmers Den Pixel get From: ILLUSIONIST To: ALL Can anyone tell me a method of getting the palette register of a pixel that is on the screen? I want be able to examine individual pixels and find out its palette register..I have looked through the GFX2 docs I havent found anything that will help, and I have looked through the technical reference, and I cant seem to find anything, I know there HAS to be a way, (otherwise how would screen shots and such work) I just cant find a way to do it.. (in case you are wondering, for a com sci project, we had to develop a run-length encoding system (simple yeh?) and I figure, since I have one written, I may as well put it to use, I was going to take VEFs and run them through the encoder, and spit the output over my modem to a friend, who would recieve them and de-encode them, (we have been working on graphics over the modem for awhile, we even have a terminal program on the PC that is almost finished that will interpret OS-9 Level 2 controls so that a PC can run a good portion of OS-9 programs as a terminal) but I just thought I would mess around with the routine since I took the time to write it) More? But all this cant be done unless I can examine the pixel at x/y to send over..(after header info for palettes are set up) anyway, thanks for any help in advance.. -* Mike Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86409 20-MAR 11:47 Programmers Den RE: Pixel get (Re: Msg 86405) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: ILLUSIONIST You have to do a GetBlk on the screen byte which contains the pixel. Then map the GP buffer's data to your program space with a _ss_mgpb() call. Then examine the appropriate portion of the byte in question to determine the palette register. And this will only give you the palette register number. If you have monkeyed with the palette registers, you will also need to get them to see what actual color number is in that register at the time. ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions "Always in motion is the future." - Yoda Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86416 20-MAR 16:22 Programmers Den RE: Pixel get (Re: Msg 86409) From: ILLUSIONIST To: COLORSYSTEMS Thanks for the info, I have been messing with _ss_mgpb() a bit, do you have any idea where/how the palette register is stored in the buffer? I havent been able to find a reference to it in the OS-9 manuals..thanks again -* Mike Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86417 20-MAR 16:40 Programmers Den RE: Pixel get (Re: Msg 86416) From: RANDYKWILSON To: ILLUSIONIST Mike, have you looked into using Winfo? It returns all kinds of window information, but I don't remember exactly what. Randy Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86422 20-MAR 18:39 Programmers Den RE: Pixel get (Re: Msg 86416) From: DBREEDING To: ILLUSIONIST > Thanks for the info, I have been messing with _ss_mgpb() a bit, do you > have any idea where/how the palette register is stored in the buffer? > I havent been able to find a reference to it in the OS-9 manuals..thanks Let me put in my two cents' worth. If I understand the question correctly, you are asking how the pixel info is stored? It seems that I have done this a little, forget exactly, but referring to the CoCo 3 service manual, I get the following (hope this is what you were asking) : In graphics mode, the byte actually refers to the Palette register (offset from $FFB0, really), generating a bit pattern referring to this offset. 16 color modes (4 bits to refer to one register - 1 byte = 2 pixels) B7-B6-B5-B4 = First Pixel B3-B2-B2-B0 = Second Pixel next byte = Next 2 Pixels 4 color modes (2 bits for one register - 1 byte = 4 pixel Bit7-B6 = First Pixel More? B5-B4 = Second Pixel B3-B2 = Third Pixel B1-B0 = Fourth Pixel 2 color modes ( 1 bit for each pixel ) B7 = First Pixel B6 = Second Pixel ... B1 = Seventh Pixel B0 = Eighth Pixel To get the color information, you will have to know the values stored in the palette registers ($FFB0 -$FFBF) and interpret them accordinly. -- David Breeding -- *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86424 20-MAR 19:54 Programmers Den RE: Pixel get (Re: Msg 86417) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: RANDYKWILSON > Mike, have you looked into using Winfo? It returns all kinds of window > information, but I don't remember exactly what. I don't think Mike is using OSK, and Winfo is specific to the OSK version og cgfx.l (unless I am behind the times on the CoCo version). Mike, if you ARE using OSK (you didn't say!), you can use the _gs_point() function to get the current color. It uses the same exact technique internally as I described to determine the color. Of course, it needs the logic to know what part of each byte to look in and so forth, which I didn't describe near as well as already described by another poster. ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions "We did not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrowed it from our descendants." Ancient proverb More? Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86426 20-MAR 20:49 Programmers Den RE: Pixel get (Re: Msg 86422) From: ILLUSIONIST To: DBREEDING Thanks for the info, I have it working now..it took a little bit of fooling around, but I got it..thanks again.. -* Mike Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86431 20-MAR 22:56 Programmers Den RE: Pixel get (Re: Msg 86424) From: RANDYKWILSON To: COLORSYSTEMS Zack, Winfo is a program to grab all the info about a window you can't get from the system. It was written in 1987 by Ron Lamardo (sp?), and is specificly for CoCo L2 windows. This program is most likely what prompted Kev to include to include the SS.Winfo call in Kwin. Randy Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86435 20-MAR 23:28 Programmers Den RE: Pixel get (Re: Msg 86431) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: RANDYKWILSON Ah yes, I remember winfo, required to snatch displays made by vefio. But winfo code is "illegal". The method I described is not only "legal" but just as fast, imho. ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions "We did not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrowed it from our descendants." Ancient proverb Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86437 21-MAR 00:28 Programmers Den RE: Pixel get (Re: Msg 86426) From: DBREEDING To: ILLUSIONIST > Thanks for the info, I have it working now..it took a little bit of > fooling around, but I got it..thanks again.. You mean to get the pixels or my msg? -- David Breeding -- *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86444 21-MAR 19:19 Programmers Den RE: Pixel get (Re: Msg 86437) From: ILLUSIONIST To: DBREEDING (NR) Re: Pixels or your msg.. :) Both. Nah, I meant the pixels... -* Mike Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86449 21-MAR 21:16 Programmers Den RE: Pixel get (Re: Msg 86426) From: JEJONES To: ILLUSIONIST (NR) > Thanks for the info, I have it working now..it took a little bit of > fooling around, but I got it..thanks again.. One thing you might want to consider is doing some buffering...it depends on the kind of access to pixels your program does, i.e. is it scattered all over the place, or does it tend to be sort of "sequential"? If it's the latter, then you might consider doing something analogous to the buffering that C standard I/O does. *** posted w/InfoXpress 1.1 *** FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86406 20-MAR 07:44 Games & Graphics RE: JPG graphics (Re: Msg 86379) From: MARKGRIFFITH To: NICKJOHNSON > Is there any utility that will view JPG graphics, or convert JPG to > something that View can handle? There are JPEG conversion programs for OSK. I believe they are in the library here. If not, they are available from wuarchive or chestnut. I don't think there is anything for OS-9/6809 though. /*********** /\/\ark *************/ (Upload with InfoXpress Ver. 1.01) Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86408 20-MAR 11:36 Games & Graphics RE: JPG graphics (Re: Msg 86381) From: NICKJOHNSON To: ILLUSIONIST You certainly overestimate my understanding of C . I don't even have the compiler, but I'm taking donations :) Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86415 20-MAR 16:18 Games & Graphics RE: JPG graphics (Re: Msg 86408) From: ILLUSIONIST To: NICKJOHNSON Ouch. No C huh? Ok, well if you get the techstats for .JPG, I doubt it would be to hard to convert VEFs over to .JGP (just grab the screen data and spit it out (under Basic09 I am still looking for a way, but I am sure it can be done)) 256 color gifs will be harder, youu will have to actually convert the file format, rather than just display the gif and write out the screen in .JPG. I will take a look at that .JGP file stuff in the new uploads, it actually kinda pertains to something I am doing sooo.... (push one more project into the active process list..sheessh) :) -* Mike Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86418 20-MAR 17:06 Games & Graphics RE: JPG graphics (Re: Msg 86415) From: NICKJOHNSON To: ILLUSIONIST The reason I'm even interested in .jpg is because much of the stuff in the internet that is pictorial is in .jpg format, and it annoys me that I can't see them Nick FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86410 20-MAR 12:33 Programmers Den Monk gets Stampe From: REVWCP To: RICKULAND (NR) Rick, Read your Email. With all best wishes, Brother Jeremy, CSJW OS9 User's Group Treasurer FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86411 20-MAR 13:16 General Information More For Sale From: BOISY To: ALL I have a few items left from my CoCo 3 sale that were claimed, but were never bought. Minimum order $20.00 All items come with manuals/documentation. If interested, please leave me a message here on Delphi. HARDWARE ======== Disto Super Controller II with 3-N-1 board, RGB-DOS and RS-DOS in ROM selectable by a microswitch $70 Speech Systems SuperVoice (modifed for 2MHz) $20 Orchestra 90-CC $10 SOFTWARE ======== Flight Simulator 2 $3 KBCom $15 Smash! $15 More? Dynacalc $3 OS-9 Profile $3 Microscopic Mission $3 Sub Battle Simulator $3 Robot Oddessy $3 OS-9 Quick Reference Guide with Patch Software (Farna Systems) $3 FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86412 20-MAR 14:26 General Information MODULES From: CLTUCKER To: ALL HI. Can some one tell me how to bring up a OS9boot module on the screen? To see how the module is written and see how to change it. (g) clt Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86413 20-MAR 14:50 General Information RE: MODULES (Re: Msg 86412) From: PHILSCHERER To: CLTUCKER Hi CL--Pull the module out of the OS9boot using bootsplit. Then you can call it up into DED and view it or change it. Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86414 20-MAR 16:05 General Information RE: MODULES (Re: Msg 86413) From: CLTUCKER To: PHILSCHERER (NR) Thanks Phil.(g) cl FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86419 20-MAR 17:19 OSK Applications gen From: NIMITZ To: ALL I am looking for info on a Fujitsu M2611SA hard drive. Size, etc. Thanks!! FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86423 20-MAR 19:38 General Information Announcing - KChess From: COLORSYSTEMS To: ALL This message just came across the COCO Bitnet List this past weekend: >Hello, > > I have just uploaded to chestnut.cs.wisc.edu the gnuchess ver. 4.0 adapted >for OSK. It uses alphanumeric screen using TOP ncurses and plays quite a >strong game. The previous version, 3.0, still available on chestnut could >not be used on MM/1 due to a incompatiblity between TOP ncurses and windio. > >Enjoy, > > Andrzej Kotanski >(kotanski@zeus02.desy.de) My thanks goes to Andrzej (pronounced "An-jay" for you uninformed) for an excellent job of porting the current version of GNU Chess to OSK. The chesstool version has a few minor problems, but for the most part, he did quite a good job. More? Let me take this chance to make the following announcement. At the upcoming Chicago CoCofest I will have ready for delivery a new product called K-Windows Chess, or KChess for short. It is a K-Windows Graphical User Interface for GNU Chess. It utilizes standard K-Windows graphics calls and uses the mouse for virtually all input. It supports all the capabilities and functions of the chesstool variant of GNU Chess. Naturally, I will supply each purchaser of KChess with a current copy of GNU Chess for OSK. An optional source diskette is also available for a small handling and media fee. Point is here that it took me 104 minutes of connect time to a) download the single archive file from chestnut, and b) download the file from my Delphi workspace to my MM/1a at 2400 bps. If you do not want to invest in this connect time to perform this download, and you can wait a few weeks until the fest, you can get your copy of GNU Chess for OSK from me. Free with a purchase of KChess, or for a small handling and media fee otherwise. Bear in mind that the current version on chestnut will probably be superseded by a new release in just a week or two also. Naturally, I will make KChess (along with GNU Chess for OSK, of course) available via mail order after May 22, 1994. If you are interested in placing an More? advance order or merely want more information as to pricing specifics, please contact me via private Email. ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions "We did not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrowed it from our descendants." Ancient proverb Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86450 21-MAR 21:30 General Information RE: Announcing - KChess (Re: Msg 86423) From: HAWKSOFT To: COLORSYSTEMS Zack: > My thanks goes to Andrzej (pronounced "An-jay" for you uninformed) > Let me take this chance to make the following announcement. At the > upcoming Chicago CoCofest I will have ready for delivery a new product > called K-Windows Chess, or KChess for short. It is a K-Windows Graphical > User Interface for GNU Chess. It utilizes standard K-Windows graphics > calls and uses the mouse for virtually all input. It supports all the > capabilities and functions of the chesstool variant of GNU Chess. I'll see you at the 'fest with $$ in hand!!! :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM ******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.01.00 >****************** FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86427 20-MAR 20:52 Applications (6809) RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 86330) From: DSRTFOX To: KSCALES I understand that situation, which goes back to the party advertising needs to make a reasonable effort to contact original marketers. And Rick Ulland did bring up a good point... there are those out there who do nothing but buy old copyrights then sue for damages. Good living in it! But I only if a large amount of damages can be gained. There is some risk involved.... I wouldn't personally risk it with a business, but a non-profit organization has less risk involved. Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86432 20-MAR 23:07 Applications (6809) RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 86330) From: MRUPGRADE To: KSCALES Rick Cooper as well has bought rights to some COCOPRO, and lately SUNDOG software. Adn hopefully had made a few dollars keeping some top knothch software available. Actually those are just wot of thhe big name items. He has bought rights to lessor known, but great software, also maiking it available. I think we all agree more of this is welcome in theh CoCo community. But it just isn't laways theh case. I've talked with several authors,, who were foro their reasons,, dead set on just changing thehe PH ## t canceling thhe PO BOx,, and throwing in the towel. One case of many,, Derringer,, wrote sokmem fantastic softwre. I still use one of his utilities (which I bought way back then) foro letter heads. Severl had talked with Derringer about obtaining rights. From what I heard at least (and I talked with him shortly before he left),, he just wasn't interested. we are greatful to htose who as oyu say,, "keep theh channels open". Til then,,, Terry Simons FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86428 20-MAR 20:59 General Information RE: Unix System V problem (Re: Msg 86378) From: DSRTFOX To: ALWAGNER (NR) We occasionally have the same problem... An unexplained problem pops up, so we do a few file reorganizations, delete a few unneeded files, some general maintenance that should have been done already (g), and then everything seems to work fine! What was the problem? Well, when you have 250 (like m e) or just a few (like you) breathing down your neck to get the system back, and in your case a boss who's losing money with no system up, well, who CARES what did it! You do everything you can and cross your fingers, and pray if you're so inclined (I do!! ) FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86429 20-MAR 22:05 General Information floppy drive deterioration? From: JEJONES To: ALL Here lately I've been finding that my floppy disk drive is having a hard time during the verify pass on formatting floppies. The retries and errors happen toward the high numbered tracks. Does this mean that my floppy drive is in need of cleaning, adjustment, or replacement? (Or something else, perhaps?) Any advice is appreciated. *** posted w/InfoXpress 1.1 *** Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86434 20-MAR 23:09 General Information RE: floppy drive deterioration? (Re: Msg 86429) From: MRUPGRADE To: JEJONES My first step on I/O errors is usually a cleaning disk. Usually but (unfortunately) not always,, that doe sit. Til then,,, Terry Simons Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86463 22-MAR 21:04 General Information RE: floppy drive deterioration? (Re: Msg 86434) From: DSRTFOX To: JEJONES James, naturally, clean it first! After that, check the drive speed. If both of these are good, well, you might need to replace the drives. I have a source that has 360K floppies for $9.50, reconditioned with a 30 day warranty, if you can't find good used ones locally. Will be printed in the next issue of "68' micros", by the way, along with some low cost hard drive sources. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86433 20-MAR 23:08 General Information RE: Fest Attendence (Re: Msg 86354) From: LUCKYONE To: NIMITZ > BlackHawk Enterprises, Inc will be at the Chicago CoCofest. We will > ship our first MM/1 within 1 week, and hope to ship 3 more within another > month to 6 weeks, INCOR willing. ;(. > > We WILL have MIDI boards with Ultimuse/K, Serial paddle boards, Tape > drive software - and will bring Archive Viper 150 MB SCSI tape drives for > those who preorder them. We will also be introducing 2 new pieces of > Software. > KTerm 2.0 and Desktamer 2.0 (OSK and OS9 L2 w. MultiView). And MAYBE > some other goodies!! > > DAvid > David, glad to hear that you will be at the Fest. Any idea about the price on the tape drives and software? Howard More? Howard Luckey delphi LUCKYONE CIS 74746,3207 ********** By InfoXpress 1.01 ********** Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86445 21-MAR 20:47 General Information RE: Fest Attendence (Re: Msg 86433) From: NIMITZ To: LUCKYONE (NR) Howard, the 150 MB tape drive will be about $385 (New drives, with MM/1 drivers). The software will be in the neighborhood of $40 to $60 dollars (that's still up in the air!). David Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86448 21-MAR 20:51 General Information RE: Fest Attendence (Re: Msg 86445) From: NIMITZ To: NIMITZ David, you forgot to mention, that tape drives will only be available for those who order BEFORE the fest. We will take orders for them at the fest, but these are too expensive for us to stock until we attain our system inventory goals! s FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86439 21-MAR 02:24 General Information ZIP format changed? From: PAGAN To: ALL It appears that the .ZIP format has been changed again. I DL'ed some archived ascii files from the internet databases that unzip 3.10 tells me is in an unknown format. Is there any way I can unarchive these files. Stephen (PAGAN) Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86443 21-MAR 18:59 General Information RE: ZIP format changed? (Re: Msg 86439) From: MITHELEN To: PAGAN Get a newer version of UnZip... Unzip from INFO-Zip is up to V5.1 at my last check.. -- Paul FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86440 21-MAR 10:55 General Information RE: CoCo2 Emulator runs Level One OS9 (Re: Msg 86371) From: CBJ To: JES68K There is no good reason why a CoCo3 emulator can't work...I don't know if it could run OS-9 L2 very well though. I'd be happy to pay the $25.00 to get it developed. These are the types of projects that are done for fun though. I doubt that it would be worth the time to do it for money. Carl Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86464 22-MAR 21:06 General Information RE: CoCo2 Emulator runs Level One OS9 (Re: Msg 86440) From: DSRTFOX To: CBJ (NR) Even if a CoCo3 emulator running Level II was limited to a single task, it would still be good for development work. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86442 21-MAR 11:10 General Information RE: Vendors? (Re: Msg 86363) From: CBJ To: MRUPGRADE Hm, I'd love to review it but Ibt that I'll have the time. As to a vendor that could demo and sell the product....well, several come to mind. I'd need more details on what kind of split they want to give said vendor and what the program does. Tony Podraza comes to mind as a reviewer or as somebody who could suggest a reviewer. We really should be discussing this in E-Mail though. Carl FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86447 21-MAR 20:50 General Information Bunk with a Monk From: REVWCP To: ALL Dear friends: I am looking for someone to share a room with at the COCOFEST in May. I will split the cost of the room for friday and saturday night. I think I'm fairly easy to get along with...No bad habits...(except the one I'm wearing...) With all best wishes, Brother Jeremy, CSJW OS9 User's Group Treasurer FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86451 21-MAR 22:00 Games & Graphics Sounds of the Hounds From: MRUPGRADE To: DSRTFOX I didn't know if you wanted a Premier issue of the Sounds of the Hounds? Wolver is relasing five as you will se in the following message. I may be able to get oyu one of the Delphi Five,, or one of the promo's which will go with some of th UPGRADE newsdisks. ?/ Til then,,, Terry Simons FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86452 21-MAR 22:04 General Information Sounds of the Hounds From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL PUBLISHE (NR) .lit Attention: Vendors / Publishers Ref: Sounds of the Hounds V3.7, from Wolver Software I asked Allen Barff, with Wolver Software, and he has been nice enough to add 5 free "Sounds of the Hounds" primier issues to Delphi readers. Providing: that you are a vendor or publisher. Req, 128K CoCo 3 W/1 drive Optional 512K runs faster as it can store screens. Publishers are asked, to seek and publish an honest review. Vendors are asked to consider adding it to their line. You may leave your Business name/ address here or in EMAIL. If more then 5 request a copy, I'll just do a random. These five will be shipped free of cost to you. Til then,,, Terry Simons Addendum >>> to all: I'll be uploading "ONE", Sounds of the Hounds game screen in the data base here on Delphi/ CoCo Sig, GRAPHICS section. More? This will be in CM3 (COCOMAX III) format. HOUNDS/CM3 FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86453 21-MAR 23:57 General Information Last Anaual Chicago CoCoFest From: THESCHU To: ALL NEWS RELEASE NEWS RELEASE NEWS RELEASE Here are the 5 "W's" WHO? 1) The Glenside Color Computer Club of Illinois presents WHAT? 2) The Third Annual "Last" Chicago CoCoFEST! WHEN? 3) May 21st & 22nd, 1994 WHERE? 4) HOLIDAY INN ELGIN (A Holidome Indoor Recreation Center) 345 W. River Road (A city block from I-90 & IL-31S) Elgin, Illinois (Same great location as last year!) Overnight room rate: $52.00 (plus 10% tax) Call 1-708-695-5000 for reservations. Be sure to ask for the "Glenside" or "CoCoFEST!" rate. >>>>> YOU MUST REGISTER UNDER COCOFEST TO GET THIS RATE <<<<< WHY? 5) A. To provide vendor support to the CoCo Community B. To provide Community support to the CoCo Vendors C. To provide educational support to new users. D. TO HAVE AN OUTRAGEOUSLY GOOD TIME!!!!! More? And now, the "H" word. HOW MUCH? 1) Admission: $15.00 at the door 2-day pass only; sorry, no 1-day passes Advance ticket sales: $10.00 + SASE or $10.00 + $.50 postage & handling Children 5 and under FREE Ages 6 - 16 $5.00 Discount when accompanied by an adult Contact: George Schneeweiss, Treasurer Glenside Color Computer Club RR#2 Box 67 Forrest, IL 61741-9629 For further information, general or exhibitor, contact: Tony Podraza, Fest Chairman Carl Boll, Vice President, GCCCI 708-428-3576, VOICE 312-735-6087, VOICE 708-428-0436, BBS 312-735-3355, BBS DELPHI-TONYPODRAZA DELPHI-CBJ Brian Schubring, President, GCCCI 708-529-3539, VOICE DELPHI-THESCHU FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86454 22-MAR 00:35 General Information RE: Eliminaotr (Re: Msg 86351) From: CHYDE To: ILLUSIONIST (NR) The eliminator doesn't have a floppy controller per sey (at least if I remember the ads). What it does have is a SCSI adaptor, to use it you'll need to get a SCSI controller that handles both floppies and hard drives (if the person you are getting it from doesn't have one for it), but the drive operation is no-halt (or at least a close approximation ). I don't know about the parallel port, but I would suspect the docs mention whether it is or not. Chris FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86455 22-MAR 00:59 Programmers Den RE: More Basic Stuff (Re: Msg 86349) From: THETAURUS To: RANDYKWILSON >>...it has one very distinct advantage. When your program is done, it can put the terminal back to the way it was. No hardcoded exit conditions. This is one advantage I plan to make use of in ANY program I succesfully complete. I didn't know this was possible using that method, so there is even MORE incentive to get into syscalls. >>Read up on syscall (I know you know how to use it),... Honestly I've never actually used a syscall, since I never got up the nerve to try it, but I do have a decent working knowledge of how it works after reading up on it quite a bit. I will check out the documentation again tho, and will see if I can get that to work. >>Note that SS.opt only copies the PD.opt section, so the offsets into your buffer will be $20 less than the numbers listed. Offset 00 would be PD.dtp<< Hmm, this is kind of sophisticated for me :-/ But, I'll get my More? nose back in the book to see what it is you mean. I understand the $20 less, but what the SS.opt and PD.opt deal with I'm not sure. The code looks interesting, so I'll hold on to it and put it in one of the src dirs I set aside for all the examples you guys give me here. :-) >>Next weeks lesson will be on how to grab the original window's type, palettes and size so that they can also be restored on exit. You must have been reading my mind! I was actually planning on asking about that, but have been holding off until I actually start working on code that deals with that. If I get help on it now before I do anything with it, I'll only forget most of what I've been told and will end up asking again. Thanks for the help Randy... >Chris< Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86456 22-MAR 00:59 Programmers Den RE: More Basic Stuff (Re: Msg 86350) From: THETAURUS To: ILLUSIONIST (NR) I tried that little experiment Mike and it wound up taking 15 seconds, which I imagine is somewhat slow. I had the 'x' dimmed as an integer for that. I then changed it to a real, and took a whole whopping one second more :-) Anyhow, does that sound slow to you? I ask since, I really wouldn't make a good judge for this type of test. See Ya >Chris< Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86462 22-MAR 20:59 Programmers Den RE: More Basic Stuff (Re: Msg 86334) From: TEDJAEGER To: THETAURUS (NR) Answer is yes. If you are in BASIC09 Kelly Thompson posted a little routine called tmd that could be called to turn on/off echo and screen scroll. I'm pretty sure he posted it here but if not I can dig it up for you. If your in BASIC 68k, I ported Kelly's tmd to it and sent it a while back to Joel for his column in 68k Micros. I can supply it if ya need it. Bests ---TedJaeger FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86458 22-MAR 00:59 General Information RE: cocofest (Re: Msg 86345) From: THETAURUS To: REVWCP That lineup is already sounding good! I'm anxious to see how things go down at the fest this year, as all the previous ones seemed to be winners. I just hope that somehow I will be able to get myself down there. Please keep us up to date on the developements when possible. Thanks for the update :-) >Chris< FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86465 22-MAR 21:49 System Modules (6809) SCSI SYS 1.0 From: DIETER To: MATHOMPSON (NR) Hi Matthew, I have send of a letter to Your Company (HardSoft) to register my SCSISYS driver 1.0 also have included a cheque for $25 Dollars. Am very impressed with the speed increase on my DISTO 4in1 setup, it is just my spare rig, but I like it to have the best drivers, thanks! Can You also send me a list of all the products You sell... G'Day! Dieter FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86466 22-MAR 22:25 General Information Sounds of the Hounds From: MRUPGRADE To: JCHOIT (NR) I just got a batch of "primier issues" of Sounds of theh Hounds in,,, packaged complete,,, adn ready to ship. Most will go out with The UPGRADE Magazines,, to a lucky few. if youo want,, drop over,, and I'll give oyu a look at som e of the fantastic new graphics,, andn other improvements. Til then,,, Terry Simons FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86467 22-MAR 22:32 General Information Sounds of the Hounds From: MRUPGRADE To: DSRTFOX (NR) I just got a batch of primeir issues of Sounds of the Hounds. Complete,, fully done and ready to run. I'll send yours with th April UPGRADE. And some luck MI&CC'ers will also receive a copy. the Graphics and adventure are one thing,, but theh protection on this one are unbelievable. As I understand PC Copy II won't handle it! Not to worry,, this one will gotten,, as they say,, legally. Til then,,, Terry Simons FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> 86468 22-MAR 22:57 General Information Compiler Video Magazine From: BOISY To: ALL Well, I received my first copy of the Compiler Video Magazine with supplemental MM/1 disk. TERRIFIC STUFF! I would urge all OS-9 users to subscribe to this service. It's not very much in way of cost, but the benefits are definitely worth it. I've always wanted some type of video magazine subscription for OS-9. Not only video, but also a disk is included! I don't have the price for the subscription in front of me, but perhaps Dave (TELENUT) could pipe in and provide that. By all means, subscribe folks. It's worth ever penny! FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> No more messages. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> No more messages. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit>