read new nonstop follow 90860 30-NOV 23:16 General Information RE: HardDrive (Re: Msg 90859) From: REVWCP To: MRGOOD Dear Hugo: > I have an ST-225 installed in a full height case with power supply. > Does $45 sound reasonable? I'd like to get rid of it since I sold > the Coco a while ago. > > Hugo > Thank you for your reply. The price is quite reasonable. At the moment I don't need the case and I think that I have a lead on a drive, but I won't know for certain until approx. 2 weeks, I will let you know. Please don't feel obligated to hold it for me, if another offer comes along first. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: With all best wishes, :::::: 2 Kings 2:23-24 ::: :: Brother Jeremy, CSJW ::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: OS9 Users Group Treasurer :: revwcp@delphi.com :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: CIS - 76477,142 ::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -*- 90861 30-NOV 23:43 General Information RE: New CD-i Stuff (Re: Msg 90846) From: BOISY To: AJMLFCO > I was in a small town shopping mall last weekend and I noticed > a Sears catalog order store. They had two CD-I machines set up > for demo purposes and I found out that Sears is selling CD-I > titles via mail order. The number is 1-800 317-4CDI (4234). > The salesman was quite enthusiastic and knowledgable! The CD-I > machines were the only consumer "game" machines in the store. Really? This is a switch for Sears. Honestly Allen, I've found Sears to generally be lacking in CD-i knowledge and having a rather poor, neglected display. It's certainly good to see a store that is above that! It seems that Philips is phasing out the 220 model CD-i players (the console type) for a newer model. We'll have to wait and see. So, did you get a CD-i player yet? -- Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __ Delphi: BOISY |_ _| \ \/ / CompuServe: 74464,3005 I use... _| |_ > < Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us |_____|NFO/_/\_\PRESS 1.2.0 OS-9 -- King of Operating Systems -*- 90863 1-DEC 05:53 Programmers Den RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90855) From: EDELMAR To: GREGL Wasn't it Borland who added restrictions recently to distribution of code using their libraries in an attempt to prevent Microsoft from using them? What's the final outcome? One of my biggest complaints about C is the lack of portability. I've been working on code for OS-9, OS9000 and G-WINDOWS to extract scalable fonts. The package is from one of the major font providers and includes source code. It is loaded with 'ifdefs, etc.' to handle conditional compilation for several versions of UNIX including the 2 SUN platforms, Apples' platforms and about a half dozen compilers for MSDOS. I'll be adding another - Ultra C. I think I may have saved time if they had provided pseudo code and not have one package to handle all compilers. But, I guess it makes their maintenance easier. Have you tried OS9000? If you have or you get a copy, let me know. I'll send you a demo version of G-WINDOWS. A review of the combination might make an interesting departure from most of the articles you've been running. Ed -*- 90864 1-DEC 19:37 Programmers Den RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90863) From: GREGL To: EDELMAR Yes, it was Borland that placed restriction on the use of the library source code. Apparently some company was marketing a library that used Borland's source code as the base of its product. As I recall, the restriction was along the lines of you couldn't use Borland's products to develop competing products. Some of the trade press jumped the gun and accused Borland of trying to squelch competition from its dBASE and Quattro applications where that wasn't the case at all. Unfortunately I don't have and can't afford to get OS9000, although I'd like to have it. I do have a copy of Linux running on the small computer though. I was somewhat surprised, but Linux is a rather nice package. I just wish I could afford to throw more hardware at it and use it for a dedicate Internet gateway machine -- for both personal use and as an amateur radio packet gateway. -- Greg -*- 90874 3-DEC 01:40 Programmers Den RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90810) From: DBREEDING To: PAGAN (NR) > I'm not sure exactly what has to be zeroed in the scf path descriptor > and waht makes no difference - I just set everything to zero. I'm open to > being educated. That would be the safest way.. Out of curiosity, I went in and did xmode on t2. It has pause turned on.. I don't see how my program keeps from pausing. I may zero out some more. > >How are you liking UCC? > I think it great. A bit slower to compile than 3.2. > optimization set to default it take 1 1/2 to 2 times as long. Small price > to pay for the greater flexiblity and the finished code runs noticeably > faster. > From now on, just about everything I post will be compiled with UCC. > I'm porting most of my G-Windows stuff for recompilation to OS9000. Sounds like a good testimonial. Might just see if I can go with it. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- 90878 3-DEC 09:12 Programmers Den RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90874) From: JEJONES To: DBREEDING (NR) > > optimization set to default it take 1 1/2 to 2 times as long. Small > > price to pay for the greater flexiblity and the finished code runs > > noticeably faster. > > > From now on, just about everything I post will be compiled with UCC. > > I'm porting most of my G-Windows stuff for recompilation to OS9000. > > Sounds like a good testimonial. Might just see if I can go with it. Well...for what it's worth, here's an additional piece of data. Remember gifshow for the MM/1? Long ago, when I first got my MM/1, with Mike Haaland's permission I did some work to speed it up. I did about all I could short of rewriting in assembly language. About a week ago, when I finally got around to installing Ultra C on my MM/1 (blush...I'm a fairly serious procrastinator), I recompiled gifshow with no particular knobs twisted to speed it up. The resulting program runs about 22% faster. (Sigh...it's about 3K bigger, too, but I believe that's because ANSI added a fair amount of bells and whistles to library routines. Compiling to use csl, Ultra C's version of cio, makes the program about 18K.) (Now, if I really want to crank it, I could tell the code generator that code size is no object, or have the intermediate code form of all the files linked together, so that the intermediate code optimizer can see everything at once and inline where it saw fit, or go ahead and link the intermediate code forms of the libraries as well...) Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors. Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside -*- End of Thread. -*- 90865 1-DEC 21:37 System Modules (6809) RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90848) From: WDTV5 To: MIKE_GUZZI Thanks, Mike, I was beginning to think nobody had tried it. Frankly, you were the only one I knew would use it as you had mentioned a long time back when setting up the current bbs that you were stuck with 28 because the later ones were broken when more than 1 sector was associated with a bit in the map. We all can use the 'testimonials'. BTW, I'm using the disto scii w a 4n1, and I get 12.5 secs or so for megaread. Probably not the same megaread tho, I re-wrote it due to a bad sector on my hard drive early one, making it into a double loop using only the first 64k of the drive. For all I know, that B09 code is slower than the original, I can't imagine its being faster than the asm code the original was in. Cheers - Gene -*- 90875 3-DEC 05:32 System Modules (6809) RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90865) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: WDTV5 (NR) Yes i was one of few who wanted to cluster the hard disk to keep that bitmap from being too damn big. with my old 30 meg drives, as they filled it took longer and longer to find free space and it was annoying. Thats why i wrote Mbackup in basic09, since it does so much disk read/writes there would be no speed advantage to write it in asm or C. -*- End of Thread. -*- 90866 1-DEC 21:56 Applications (6809) RE: 8-bit chips (Re: Msg 90845) From: DSRTFOX To: AJMLFCO There is still plenty of OS-9 control solutions marketed, Allen, but not on the small scale side that you are talking about. Most is embedded in large scale factory control situations. As for small controllers, you are correct... very few! But J&M Micro still manufactures and sells a 6809 controller board and a development system for it. It isn't very expensive either! -*- 90873 3-DEC 01:15 Applications (6809) RE: 8-bit chips (Re: Msg 90866) From: AJMLFCO To: DSRTFOX (NR) I would be interested in knowing of any large scale industrial control systems which use OS9 as a major component of their product. I don't think Honeywell TDC3000, Foxboro I/A, Bailey I90, Measurex, Allen-Bradley, GE, Westinghouse, use it and together they represent 99% of the industrial controls market. There are some niche applications for OS9 that I know of: Allen-Bradley's interface card for connecting to Foxboro I/A, Measurex's vibration analysis "SafeCondition" system (which I have personally installed and used), some 6809 OS9 level one associated with Honeywell IPC620 PLC's, and Cutler-Hammers' "Panelmate" operator interfaces. I sure don't claim to know about all industries. I am most familiar with Pulp & Paper, Petro-Chemical, and wood products. Not too familiar with the Auto industry, which may be what you are talking about. When I run across OS9, I always give it extra attention and interest because I think "It's the Best" but solid, conservative, business decisions must eventually be made. Allen Insert typical disclaimer here.... -*- 90877 3-DEC 09:12 Applications (6809) RE: 8-bit chips (Re: Msg 90873) From: JEJONES To: AJMLFCO (NR) > I don't think Honeywell TDC3000, Foxboro I/A, Bailey I90, > Measurex, Allen-Bradley, GE, Westinghouse, use it and together they > represent 99% of the industrial controls market. There are some > niche applications for OS9 that I know of: Allen-Bradley's interface > card for connecting to Foxboro I/A, Measurex's vibration analysis > "SafeCondition" system (which I have personally installed and used), > some 6809 OS9 level one associated with Honeywell IPC620 PLC's, and > Cutler-Hammers' "Panelmate" operator interfaces. I'm confused. These two sentences seem mutually inconsistent. Among Microware's promotional literature is an OEM list; I would think they'd send you a copy upon request. The list is pretty long. Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors. Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside -*- End of Thread. -*- 90867 1-DEC 22:06 General Information CD-i From: DSRTFOX To: BOISY Boisy, wouold you know if the Panasonic CDO machines are anything like the CD-i? I mean as far as compatibility with games or movies. Someone here recently purchased one for their kids (I told them CD-i would be better supported through Sears!!). It is similar in concept, but I think I read somewhere that it isn't compatible with CD-i games. But are the movies? I seem to recal that the movies aren't a Phillips standard, so they may be compatible. Any comments? -*- 90868 1-DEC 23:19 General Information RE: CD-i (Re: Msg 90867) From: BOISY To: DSRTFOX (NR) Frank, 3DO and CD-i are not compatible. And as of this time, 3DO cannot play full motion, full screen video, though it tries to make a noble attempt at it. 3DO is more of a game unit than anything else, while CD-i is a much broader product. I understand 3DO is coming out with an MPEG cartridge, but as of THIS time, there still isn't one, and I'll believe it when I see it in the stores. 3Dhas its own proprietary operating system and does NOT use CD-RTOS (OS-9). So no, the movies on Video CD are not playable on the 3DO. You can only get full motion full screen video from a CD-i player. -*- 90869 1-DEC 23:23 General Information RE: CD-i (Re: Msg 90867) From: COCOKIWI To: DSRTFOX (NR) Ah! of interest!! anew chip out there is going to make CD-ROM into.... PLAY-CD.....an addon chip......... that gives VIDEO on cd...Dennis -*- 90872 2-DEC 06:02 General Information RE: CD-i (Re: Msg 90867) From: COCOKIWI To: DSRTFOX (NR) I,m back! had to type quick,someone was at the door!..... The chip I,m refuring to is called the PLAYCD chip a cpu and a bunch of cocoprocessors......on ONE chip! DVI compatible....3DO...Video MPEG ...Etc........from what I,ve gleaned from this,is this chip is what will be in the Creative Labs 3DO card they are coming out with.... The chip can be put in a CD-ROM drive at a cost of $50 extra..making the player compatable to most all formats.....Movies on CD-ROM on ones computer! I was reading about it the other day! The chip is there,and waiting to find a home in other CD drives,or a computer or two! one could find a CD-ROM-TV Boom box in a year or so..put a SCSI-2 interface in it! portable CD-rom! ......and movie box! slip in a movie! watch it....or plug in to computer and play your best part..over and over again!!! Dennis -*- End of Thread. -*- 90870 2-DEC 00:16 System Modules (6809) RE: boots (Re: Msg 90852) From: RICKULAND To: MIKE_GUZZI Thanks, Mike. I remembered that, but forgot to attr it. Did that and got a vdg only version that still opened windows....just now, noticed I didn't fix init when I hacked in /dd/cmds:-) hooray! So grfdrv was available, after boot. A little late for term. -ricku Rick Ulland CoNect rickuland@delphi.com 449 South 90th St. "Operating System Nine"- 268m Milwaukee WI 53214 -*- 90876 3-DEC 05:33 System Modules (6809) RE: boots (Re: Msg 90870) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: RICKULAND (NR) yep, sometimes a simple thing like that will make you pull your hair out -*- End of Thread. -*- 90871 2-DEC 02:36 General Information RE: cdi (Re: Msg 90674) From: PHXKEN To: TEDJAEGER (NR) Not all CD-i disks are the same. Some will play the music scores on any audio CD player and some will not. A few [4, I think] have Kodak Photo Format but I do not know if they have visible pictures on any Kodak Photo CD player. If you want to experiment, I suggest you look for one of the Mozart CDs that shows plainly on the cover that the music can be played on any Audio CD player. If it does not say so, then it probably won't. The Mozart CD-i I am talking about costs less than $20.00 retail. I think that some of the jazz CD-i's have the same feature but they are all sold out here for Christmas. $phxken@class68.com -*- 90879 3-DEC 09:44 General Information New From DISTO! From: DISTO To: ALL Now available! The "Inside 2-Meg" booklet from DISTO. Its a full description of the DISTO 2-Meg Kit. Schematic diagrams, PAL listing and a full chip by chip description of how it works. Send $20 + $2.50 S/H to DISTO 1710 Depatie, St. Laurent Quebec, Canada H4L 4A8. -Tony. -*- FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit>