read new nonstop follow 92037 12-MAR 15:15 OSK Applications RE: CDL Basic demo (Re: Msg 91989) From: FHOGG To: AJMLFCO >Would he care to respond... I think his best responce would be to get 2.4 to those who were promised it. As he is not on Delphi he would likely not respond to you on the forum. I did forward your message to him. If you want to talk to him he can be reached at 314/236-4372. Frank -*- 92045 12-MAR 23:19 OSK Applications RE: CDL Basic demo (Re: Msg 92037) From: AJMLFCO To: FHOGG Thanks for taking my complaint graciously. Allen Morgan -*- End of Thread. -*- 92038 12-MAR 16:04 Telecom (6809) RE: infoexpress? (Re: Msg 92033) From: GREGL To: DBREEDING I don't think it could have been that long enough considering I received my license in July 1993. I did find two Mike Browns in Kentucky. One is KD4UXW in Richmond and the other is KM4IY in Liberty. Like I said, KM4IY sure does sound familiar to me -- almost smacks me in the face (g) but I can't put a voice or a face with the call. I doubt I can get into the Somerset repeater from here. I think that one's on 146.880 and we have another 146.880 repeater here in Louisville. -- Greg -*- 92043 12-MAR 22:43 Telecom (6809) RE: infoexpress? (Re: Msg 92038) From: DBREEDING To: GREGL > I don't think it could have been that long enough considering I received > my license in July 1993. I did find two Mike Browns in Kentucky. One is > KD4UXW in Richmond and the other is KM4IY in Liberty. Like I said, KM4IY > sure does sound familiar to me -- almost smacks me in the face (g) but I > can't put a voice or a face with the call. I'd say the's the one.. This Mike stands about 5' 8" tall.. Somewhat plump. He has a dark beard, curly-headed. RE: the time.. it might have been before you got your license, seems when I first mentioned you, he asked had you gotten your license, so it could have been a while ago.. seems like he did say it had been a while. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- End of Thread. -*- 92039 12-MAR 16:25 General Information RE: Rick Cooper (Re: Msg 86570) From: CFDMRICK To: THETAURUS Chris...I'm on Delphi as CFDMRICK and can be found in the CoCo Sig most of the time. Please leave a message in my mailbox as to how I can be of assistance. CFDMRICK -*- 92040 12-MAR 18:58 General Information RE: Internet IRC (Re: Msg 92034) From: DBREEDING To: JEJONES > > bit under $3000. I don't know about quad-speed.. I don't know about > the > future, but I've seen a couple of reviews and articles where they > say > that as of now, you can't really realize the extra performance from a > > quad-speed CD-ROM... > > Depends. "N-tuple speed" CD-ROM drives are really only N times as fast > on large sequential reads. When you start doing random access, their > advantage falls off fast. That's basically what I've been seeing.. Plus, some claim that the less- than-fastest CPU's cannot utilize the extra speed for many things. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92050 13-MAR 01:30 General Information RE: Internet IRC (Re: Msg 92017) From: WA2EGP To: CHARLESAM I have several platforms here including an MPC machine. I'm not as impressed as I thought I would be. Now if I or someone really knowledgable wrote some software that did what those PCs with the CD drives, I think OSK would really show it's stuff. Take a look at CD-i to see what OS-9 can do. AS far as speed in the PCs for graphics, I got the Lion King Storybook for my son. The mouse animation on my MM/1 is so much better in animation. It might be because of using a hard drive versus a CD drive but it does llok oops, look better (sorry Disney). -*- 92054 13-MAR 23:04 General Information RE: Internet IRC (Re: Msg 92050) From: CHARLESAM To: WA2EGP I'll have to look at CD-i prior to making a decision but I have a few months to do my shopping, so no-problem. If I get to Chicago, I'll get a good look. Thanx Charlie -*- End of Thread. -*- 92041 12-MAR 18:58 General Information RE: Pentium SNAFU (Re: Msg 92035) From: DBREEDING To: TEDJAEGER > my son telling the "You know why Intel didnt call the Pentium the 586...." > joke. Of course, I had to phone Intel to report the problem with the new > chip, and, of course, the Intel guy wanted some info on my system which > required me to boot up..... He didn't laugh. Could be that they are beginning to have a pretty short fuse by now.. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92042 12-MAR 20:49 General Information MM/1 Screen Saver Idea From: BOISY To: ALL I've been thinking about the problems associated with getting screen savers to work on the MM/1. One problem I see is finding out reliably if the mouse and/or keyboard has been touched. Normally, a screen saver program waits for some predetermined length of time before it kicks in. I envision a user state process which sleeps for 'n' seconds. When the process awakes, it invokes a screen saver and goes back to sleep. Some "master" process would monitor the keyboard and mouse to see if either has generated an interrupt. If so, it sends a signal to the user state process. If the user state process is sleeping and hasn't activated its screen saver, it starts sleeping for the total time 'n'. If it receives a signal while the screen saver routine is active, it shuts that off, restores the window and goes back to sleep for 'n' seconds. The problem is: there's no easy way to tell if the mouse has been moved, save doing a constant _gs_mous() which wastes unecessary amounts of CPU time. The keyboard is also a challenge, since some keys (like SysRq and Scroll Lock) do not return a character to the application. I think I've found a way to do this on the MM/1 fairly easily. Both the keyboard and mouse are interrupt driven devices. If you do an 'irqs' command on the MM/1, you should see something like this: IMS MM/1 68340 11MB System OS-9/68K V3.0 (max devs: 32, max irqs: 32) vector prior port addr data addr irq svc driver device ------- ----- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ 26 (2) 1 $009fffe1 $007f9d84 $0001d0be windio w2 (?) 28 (4) 1 $00e00281 $007c7a20 $00012818 sc68681 t3 28 (4) 2 $00e00000 $007f7170 $00026ce0 scsi_mm1a 28 (4) 5 $00e00381 $007f9d30 $000146d6 msdrv 29 (5) 3 $009ffc00 $00000000 $000104ba tk68901 29 (5) 5 $009ffc41 $007f9d84 $00013ab2 keydrv 29 (5) 9 $009ffcc1 $007da4e0 $000250b2 rb37c65 d0 100 2 $fffff780 $007f9d84 $00014a2e snddrv 101 2 $fffff7a0 $007f7170 $00026cea scsi_mm1a 101 2 $fffff7a0 $007da4e0 $00025146 rb37c65 d0 This may differ on a 68070 based MM/1 (could someone with an 070 please send me their 'irqs' output?) By installing an interrupt service routine on vectors 28 and 29, we can "borrow" interrupts from our neighboring devices down the chain. Look at vector #28. Currently, three devices are using that vector for interrupts. Each device has an associated priority which determines its position in the interrupt polling chain. ____________ ____________ ____________ | 1 | | 2 | | 5 | | |______| |______| | | sc68681 | | scsi_mm1a | | msdrv | | | | | | | ------------ ------------ ------------ When an interrupt comes into a vector, the interrupt service routine (ISR) for that driver determines if the interrupt belongs to that device by checking its hardware. If the interrupt does belong to that device, it is serviced, and the ISR returns with the carry flag clear. If however, the interrupt does not belong to that device, then the ISR returns with the carry flag set, and the kernel calls the ISR of the next device down the chain. So if an interrupt came in that belonged to 'msdrv', the ISR of sc68681 would be called first. Since the interrupt belongs to msdrv, sc68681 would return with the carry flag set. The kernel would then call scsi_mm1a and the same thing would occur. When the kernel calls msdrv, the ISR sees that the interrupt is for the mouse, services it, and returns to the kernel indicating the interrupt was serviced. We can install an ISR with a priority of 3 or 4 which will sit between scsi_mm1a and msdrv. So when an interrupt comes in for the mouse, our ISR gets it first. It can then send a signal to a user state process which handles the screen saving duties. The user state screen saver program can then act on the signal accordingly. Once the ISR sends the signal to the user state process, it "lies" by setting the carry flag and returning to the kernel so that the interrupt can really be serviced by msdrv. The keyboard vector (#29) makes it somewhat more difficult on my system: 29 (5) 3 $009ffc00 $00000000 $000104ba tk68901 29 (5) 5 $009ffc41 $007f9d84 $00013ab2 keydrv 29 (5) 9 $009ffcc1 $007da4e0 $000250b2 rb37c65 d0 An ISR could be installed at priority 4, but it might catch the interrupt of keydrv, or it might catch the interrupt of rb37c65. The good news is that the priority of the keyboard driver can be changed by using moded or dEd to modify the IRQ priority field in the /term and /w* descriptors. The key is to make the keyboard and mouse ISRs be the last devices on that vector by adjusting their priority, and leaving at least one position between it and the next to last device so that our screen saver ISR can be installed. Thoughts? -- Boisy G. Pitre Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us Delphi: BOISY "Character is what you are in the dark." -- D. L. Moody -*- 92044 12-MAR 23:15 General Information RE: SCSI Host Adapter (Re: Msg 91993) From: AJMLFCO To: DAVID106 No, I would not assume that. The data sheets show the same type of info for my Quantum 240Meg SCSI and it does do 256 byte sectors (Which is a good thing since I'm still stuck with OSK 2.3). Why not give it a try? By the way, I have a Seagate 40 Meg SCSI harddrive on the CoCo-3 thanks to the SC-II and the 4n1 board. One time when I was in the mood for experimenting, I took it out and plugged it into the OSK machine. OSK had no complaints! So now, the way I defragment the CoCo hard drive is to have the OSK machine copy the data out, "deldir" from the root, and then dsave the files back. It still takes ahout an hour, but it's much better than using floppies. Allen -*- 92046 12-MAR 23:37 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92019) From: AJMLFCO To: RANDYKWILSON Also, one can take the SCSI drive and later use it with most quality PC's as the majority of CD-ROMs are SCS Allen -*- 92047 12-MAR 23:43 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92025) From: AJMLFCO To: ISC I helped install a new IBM 9920-170 mainframe at work and it used SCSI hard drives. Our Tandem computer also uses SCSI, and the Sparc stations, and the HP9000's and the Novell fileservers...Come to think of it, about the only thing that doesen't is the PC clone desktop units. Allen -*- 92051 13-MAR 15:32 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92047) From: ISC To: AJMLFCO (NR) > I helped install a new IBM 9920-170 mainframe at work and it used > SCSI hard drives. Our Tandem computer also uses SCSI, and the Sparc stations, > and the HP9000's and the Novell fileservers...Come to think of it, about > the only thing that doesen't is the PC clone desktop units. > > Allen > Hee, hee. Time to invest in SCSI companies! Bill -*- 92053 13-MAR 22:58 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92019) From: CHARLESAM To: RANDYKWILSON I love my scsi drive especially since adding Matt Thompson's SCSISYS. I just don't see any scsi drives for sale in the big stores. I'd love to get my hands on a ST-277-N-1(65meg) so I can backup up my existing drive. I bought one at the Cocofest but when I got it home I couldn't get it to run. Gave it to Keith (REVKAK) to play with. My HD is very sensitive to jolts. Its crashed twice alr already. I won't move it any more, unless I get a backup. I'll find something soon. Thanx Charlie -*- 92057 14-MAR 01:00 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92053) From: MITHELEN To: CHARLESAM Try JEM Computers (617-497-2500) they have SCSI HDs at great prices... Not sure if any support 256 byte sectors, but just for examples, they have a Conner CP-3100 (104 meg) for 59$ (reburb), and Quantum ELS127S (127 Meg) for 89$ (NEW!)... And for real space needs... a Seagate ST41650 (1.4G) for 399$ (NEW!)... They also carry lots of other great bargins. I plan on getting one of he 1.4 gig drives for my BBS, and a Quantum 127 meg for my MM/1 in the next few weeks... -- Paul -*- 92072 16-MAR 22:35 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92057) From: DSRTFOX To: MITHELEN On 14-MAR 01:00 MITHELEN said to CHARLESAM > Try JEM Computers (617-497-2500) they have SCSI HDs at great >prices... Not sure if any support 256 byte sectors, but just for >examples, they have a Conner CP-3100 (104 meg) for 59$ (reburb), and >Quantum ELS127S (127 Meg) for 89$ (NEW!)... And for real space >needs... a Seagate ST41650 (1.4G) for 399$ (NEW!)... They also carry >lots of other great bargins. I plan on getting one of he 1.4 gig >drives for my BBS, and a Quantum 127 meg for my MM/1 in the next few >weeks... -- > Paul There is one other problem with SCSI drives!! The Mac drives should work fine with a CoCo, but not all PC drives will. The PC uses a parity check bit even on the hard drive. If you can't turn this parity bit off (Seagate's have a jumper), you can't use it on a Mac or CoCo!! Francis (Frank) Swygert Publisher, "the world of 68' micros" Magazine `[1;34;43mRainbow V 1.11 for Delphi - Registered -*- 92075 17-MAR 01:42 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92057) From: CHARLESAM To: MITHELEN Thanx Paul, the prices quoted sound like my ballpark. I have SCSISYS so I can handle 512 sectors. I'll call them this weekend. Regards Charlie -*- 92080 17-MAR 21:52 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92075) From: REVKAK To: CHARLESAM Charlie, Forget the Conner Cp 3100 as it is for a "green PC" and requires the appropriate drivers and/or hardware. I have one that will not talk to my Disto 4in1 with or without SCSISYS 256 or 512 sectors. It is on its way back after I got a call from JEM yesterday explaining the situation. It seems that it powers down after now activity to save power. The hitch is that the driver must send a hex code to wake it up and wait for power up and then read or write to it. (now = no) Hope this saves some headaches trying to get an incompatible drive going. Best wishes, Keith -*- 92085 18-MAR 00:43 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92072) From: DBREEDING To: DSRTFOX (NR) > The Mac drives should work > fine with a CoCo, but not all PC drives will. The PC uses a parity check > bit even on the hard drive. If you can't turn this parity bit off > (Seagate's have a jumper), you can't use it on a Mac or CoCo!! I know all about that stinking jumper .. I worked about a week trying to get my ST1096N working on my coco.. At that time, Seagate had a BBS. I dloaded a file for it, It had a diagram using IBM graphics to show all the jumpers etc, but the meaning wasn't clear when displayed on the coco, and my printer at that time didn't support IBM graphics, so it still didn't help me.. I finally got it working, and it was a real thrill seeing that thing format... I was beginning to get kind worried -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92090 18-MAR 02:33 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92072) From: LMCCLURE To: DSRTFOX (NR) Are you sure you don't have that reversed? I ask as: (1) PC's do not have SCSI interfaces as standard equipment, so whether parity would be required would be up to the interface, and likely differs from one to another. (2) AFAIK, the Mac *does* require parity. Having an Atari STe, I am aware of this due to the fact that some host adapters for it cannot handle parity, and it has been noted that drives intended for use on the Mac have parity enabled. -*- 92091 18-MAR 11:04 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92080) From: CHARLESAM To: REVKAK Yeah, I'm going to stay with a scsi drive. I'm having headaches getting my Disto 4in1 board up and running. I also need info on the 6551a chip in the controllers and paks. Which pin is the IRQ line? I'm supposed to jumper it to pin 40 on the connector. I have no idea which pin it is. This is all part of Cocokiwi's IRQ hack. I'm home this weekend if you have time to get over. Thanx much Charlie. PS*** As always, Linda has baked some cookies and the coffee pot is always going. Later.... -*- 92096 18-MAR 16:54 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92090) From: DBREEDING To: LMCCLURE > Are you sure you don't have that reversed? I ask as: > (1) PC's do not have SCSI interfaces as standard equipment, so whether > parity would be required would be up to the interface, > (2) AFAIK, the Mac *does* require parity. I'm not sure which would be which, but the Disto Controller, at least, does *NOT* use it. My Seagate came with the parity pins jumpered, (enabled), and I had to remove it. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92097 18-MAR 16:54 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92091) From: DBREEDING To: CHARLESAM > Yeah, I'm going to stay with a scsi drive. I'm having headaches getting > my Disto 4in1 board up and running. What are your problems? (was it you who was asking about parity?) -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92101 18-MAR 22:13 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92080) From: LMCCLURE To: REVKAK "Forget the Conner Cp 3100 as it is for a "green PC" and requires the appropriate drivers and/or hardware." "It seems that it powers down after no activity to save power. The hitch is that the driver must send a hex code to wake it up and wait for power up and then read or write to it." Most 3.5" SCSI drives have this capability, but it is either under the control of a jumper, or by a software command sent after the initial spin-up. The capability pre-dates "green PC's" even, as 3.5" drives were first used in notebook computers, where power is at a premium. Even my old 1.6" high (half-height) Connor CP340 3.5" hard drive obeys a software command to power down until a command to read or write is sent. I do not know if it can be jumpered to default to this mode, because I have no info on it's jumper settings, and they are unmarked (except for the SCSI ID jumpers on the bottom of the drive). (NOTE: That last bit is a hint for anyone having the data on what the jumpers on the front of a Connor CP340 do to e-mail me). -*- 92102 18-MAR 22:21 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92101) From: REVKAK To: LMCCLURE Are you using that Conner CP340 on a PC or on a CoCo? If on a CoCo, what interface are you using? Disto, Kenton, or other? Also which drivers are you using? Maybe I can get this thing going! Thanks for the reply. -*- 92106 19-MAR 01:00 General Information SCSI Hard Drives (Re: Msg 92102) From: LMCCLURE To: REVKAK "Are you using that Conner CP340 on a PC or on a CoCo?" Neither actually. I am using it on an Atari ST (with an ICD AdSCSI+ host adapter). -*- 92107 19-MAR 01:02 General Information SCSI Hard Drives (Re: Msg 92096) From: LMCCLURE To: DBREEDING "I'm not sure which would be which, but the Disto Controller, at least, does *NOT* use it. My Seagate came with the parity pins jumpered, (enabled), and I had to remove it." From what I understand from ST users that have purchased new SCSI drives, most ship with parity enabled. Just be glad you did not get a Quantum ELS-series drive. Those do not even have a jumper to disable parity. That is set via software, and if your machine cannot handle parity, you have two choices: (1) Find a machine that can, and use it to disable parity, or (2) return the drive to Quantum and have them do it. I am not certain if the newer, larger Quantum drives have kept this, or returned to a more sensible jumper arrangement for controlling parity. -*- 92108 19-MAR 01:08 General Information SCSI Hard Drives (Re: Msg 92102) From: LMCCLURE To: REVKAK If the Connor you have has the same jumper setup as my old CP340, this might help. On the bottom of the drive are 4 jumpers, marked "E", "2", "3", and "4". The ones labled 2-3 are the three SCSI ID jumpers. I have no idea what "E" is, but I do recall I could not get the drive to work without it enabled. I do know it cannot be "enable parity" as the "E" might imply, as the old host adapter I had when I first got the drive could not handle parity. The front of the drive has the following jumper setup: o o o o o o o o o o o I have no idea what these jumpers do, except that the lonely pair to the extreme right are for the activity LED. None of these are jumpered on my CP340. I hope this is of some help to you. -*- 92110 19-MAR 10:00 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92097) From: CHARLESAM To: DBREEDING I don't recall asking anything about parity. Anyway, I have Nitros9, ScsiSys, 2 meg board, MPI(which I'm not sure was upgraded since when I open the cover I can't see anything that looks like an upgrade)3024, DistoSC-II, and of course a 4in1 board. I've attached a 9v source to j4. Installed the Scsisys.4in1.mp.dr but on boot, I never do get to the HD. I'm thinking of backing up and try a unNitros'd boot without the MPI, and leave out the SCSISYS. If I get it to work then, I'll add one change at a time till I find the problem. This a challenge now so I'm in till I cry or if I get lucky till it works. Thanx Charlie PS- Any suggestions will be gladly accepted. Later... -*- 92113 19-MAR 12:28 General Information RE: SCSI Hard Drives (Re: Msg 92107) From: RANDYKWILSON To: LMCCLURE The two Quantum drives I have here, a LPS105S and a LT730S both have jumpers to enable parity. They are shipped with the jumpers installed, also strapped to id #6. I would guess one reason behind this is that it is the most convenient place to store the jumper blocks for shipping. Randy -*- 92124 19-MAR 20:14 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92110) From: DBREEDING To: CHARLESAM > I don't recall asking anything about parity. Anyway, I have Nitros9, I asked because someone had asked and was not sure who it was.. > ScsiSys, 2 meg board, MPI(which I'm not sure was upgraded since when I > open the cover I can't see anything that looks like an upgrade)3024, > DistoSC-II, and of course > a 4in1 board. I've attached a 9v source to j4. Installed the > Scsisys.4in1.mp.dr > but on boot, I never do get to the HD. I'm thinking of backing up and try a > unNitros'd boot without the MPI, and leave out the SCSISYS. That might be a good idea. You might ought to leave SCSISYS in, though (maybe backing off on it if all else fails). > If I get it to work > then, I'll add one change at a time till I find the problem. This a > challenge now > so I'm in till I cry or if I get lucky till it works. Thanx Charlie > PS- Any suggestions will be gladly accepted. Later... Does it access the drive at all - that is, will it activate the light? Ummm.. there couldn't be the possibility you have your cable on backward, could there? If it accesses the drive but returns an error, you might look into the parity bit thing, if you haven't already. My Seagate 1096N has a jumper that enables parity checking, and it had to be removed before it would work. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92127 20-MAR 00:17 General Information RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92124) From: CHARLESAM To: DBREEDING Nah, I removed the only jumper at the get go some time back. My drive works fine with my Kenton controller. I did reverse the cable a few times but when I start over as planned, I'll have to do that if I still don't have sucess. I may have asked some questions regarding parity when I was trying to get a second HD running. I gave up on that project and turned over the drive to a friend. He's more knowledgable about these things and maybe he'll get it working. I have three days off this week so I'll start from scratch. Thanx for feedback. I'll keep you posted. Charlie -*- 92138 20-MAR 22:15 General Information RE: SCSI Hard Drives (Re: Msg 92113) From: LMCCLURE To: RANDYKWILSON "The two Quantum drives I have here, a LPS105S and a LT730S both have jumpers to enable parity." I'm not surprised about the Quantum LPS105S, as it is of the same series and generation as my LPS52S, which has an "EP" jumper. Oddly enough, my older Conner CP340 must have a jumper installed to disable parity, rather than enable it. (I discovered from the SCSI FAQ that was what the "E" jumper on my CP340 was). -*- End of Thread. -*- 92048 13-MAR 00:36 Programmers Den cbdemo and G-Windows From: PAGAN To: ALL Someone sent me a copy of the cbdemo file from CI$ which has a workable copy of cbdemo. Naturally I tried to use it with G-Windows immediately. Using it with the G-Windows libraries isn't as easy as it seemed it would be. First I tries defining my Window_Set() and auto_events() functions: #FCN Window_Set(8) #FCN auto_events(8) #LIB /dd/GWINDOWS/LIB/wmlib.l The compiler returned: ------------------------- snip ------------------------- #FCN Window_Set(8) ^ Invalid symbol name in line 26 #FCN auto_events(8) ^ Invalid symbol name in line 27 ------------------------- snip ------------------------- Well, OK. The function names are longer than the 9 character maximum so I shouldn't've really expected this to work. Next I truncated the names to 9 characters: #FCN Window_Se(8) #FCN auto_even(8) #LIB /dd/GWINDOWS/LIB/wmlib.l This was better but the Window_Se() wasn't recognized when I tried to call it: ------------------------- snip ------------------------- dummy=Window_Se(winpath,0,W_Gadget,gadgets,1,0,0,0) ^ Undefined symbol in line 35 dummy=Window_Se(winpath,0,W_Event,WEV_Close,4747,0,0,0) ^ Undefined symbol in line 36 dummy=Window_Se(winpath,0,W_Enable,1,0,0,0,0) ^ Undefined symbol in line 37 ------------------------- snip ------------------------- OK, maybe upper case is causing it to choke. So I trys: #FCN window_se(8) #FCN auto_even(8) #LIB /dd/GWINDOWS/LIB/wmlib.l VIOLA! I made it to the linker before spitting me out. I'll skip all he unresolved references from function found in wmlib.l because they could be resolved by linking in the appropiate library and defining the needed global variables from cstart.a. What I'm not sure can be resolved easily is: ------------------------- snip ------------------------- Symbol 'window_se' unresolved. Referenced 3 times by psect 'gtest' in file 'RELS/gtest.r' Symbol 'auto_even' unresolved. Referenced by psect 'gtest' in file 'RELS/gtest.r' ------------------------- snip ------------------------- Any suggestions? Beside creating a special G-Windows library for CDL basic? That would mean stepping thru every Window_Set() and Window_Get() etc to determine the getstat/setstt being used and I like C programming just fine. Stephen (PAGAN) -*- 92052 13-MAR 20:57 Programmers Den RE: cbdemo and G-Windows (Re: Msg 92048) From: DBREEDING To: PAGAN > Using it with the G-Windows libraries isn't > as easy as it seemed it would be. Hmmm.. You'd think that since Frank supports G-Windows, this would be high on his priorities. > I made it to the linker before spitting me out. > Symbol 'window_se' unresolved. > Referenced 3 times by psect 'gtest' in file 'RELS/gtest.r' > Any suggestions? Beside creating a special G-Windows library for > CDL basic? That would mean stepping thru every Window_Set() and > Window_Get() etc to determine the getstat/setstt being used and I > like C programming just fine. Well, if one were serious about it, could you create an intermediary file to do something like this? window_se: bra Window_Set ...etc... This would preserve the stack, and it would return back to the original calling function when the G-Windows function was done. This could be assembled to be a library file perhaps. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- End of Thread. -*- 92049 13-MAR 00:39 General Information VIRUS ALERT !! From: MRUPGRADE To: BOISY I pass you this file Uploaded to COCOLIST From: "Bob Billson" From the cypherpunks mailing list. People - please note! The following new computer viruses have been detected in or around the US. Please be alert for them when you scan your computers. AT&T VIRUS: Every three minutes it tells you what great service you are getting. MCI VIRUS: Every three minutes it reminds you that you're paying too much for the AT&T virus. POLITICALLY CORRECT VIRUS: Never calls itself a "virus", but instead refers to itself as an "electronic microorganism." RIGHT TO LIFE VIRUS: Won't allow you to delete a file, regardless of how old it is. If you attempt to erase a file, it requires you to first see a counsellor about possible alternatives. DAN QUAYLE VIRUS: Their is sumthing rong wit your komputer, ewe jsut cant figyour out watt! GOVERNMENT ECONOMIST VIRUS: Nothing works, but all your diagnostic software says everything is fine. FEDERAL BUREAUCRAT VIRUS: Divides your hard disk into hundreds of little units, each of which does practically nothing, but all of which claim to be the most important part of your computer. GALLUP VIRUS: Sixty percent of the PCs infected will lose 38 percent of their data 14 percent of the time. (plus or minus a 3.5 percet margin of error.) TEXAS VIRUS: Makes sure that it's bigger than any other file. ADAM AND EVE VIRUS: Takes a couple of bytes out of your Apple. CONGRESSIONAL VIRUS: The computer locks up, screen splits erratically with a message appearing on each half blaming the other side for the problem. AIRLINE VIRUS: You're in Dallas, but your data is in Singapore. FREUDIAN VIRUS: Your computer becomes obsessed with marrying its own motherboard. PBS VIRUS: Your programs stop every few minutes to ask for money. ELVIS VIRUS: Your computer gets fat, slow and lazy, then self destructs; only to resurface at shopping malls and service stations across rural America. OLLIE NORTH VIRUS: Causes your printer to become a paper shredder. JIMMY HOFFA VIRUS: Your programs can never be found again. CONGRESSIONAL VIRUS #2: Runs every program on the hard drive simultaneously, but doesnt allow the user to accomplish anything. KEVORKIAN VIRUS: Helps your computer shut down as an act of mercy. STAR TREK VIRUS: Invades your system in places where no virus has gone before. HEALTH CARE VIRUS: Tests your system for a day, finds nothing wrong, and sends you a bill for $4,500. GEORGE BUSH VIRUS: It starts by boldly stating, "Read my docs....No new files!" on the screen. It proceeds to fill up all the free space on your hard drive with new files, then blames it on the Congressional Virus. ORAL ROBERTS VIRUS - Claims that if you don't send it a million dollars, it's programmer will take it back. Last but not least: LORINA BOBBIT VIRUS: It turns your hard drive into a 3 & 1/2" floppy! Til then,, Terry g -*- 92055 14-MAR 00:05 General Information Looking for IMS info. From: KNOT1 To: ALL Howdy! I'm wondering if anyone here might have some current information on IMS, such as if they are still around and if/how they can be contacted. If so, would certainly appreciate e-mailing that to me either here (KNOT1) or to wilmoth@msen.com. For those wanting to know, I was one of the early people to order an MM/1, and ordered a pretty much full system. I recieved a partial system at which time I payed the balance for the entire system. Yes, I have pretty much written it off as a loss, but every so often I get to feeling guilty about not having gotten it and try once again to contact them, so far with no luck. Figured I would give it one more good try. Even if I had to pay for the stuff again it'd be nice to get the machine working fully, as my CoCo3 is starting to act a little fritzy. Well, thanks for your patient ear and any help provided. :-) (Please remember to use e-mail, as I don't get to read the forum regularly. Thanks!) -- Jamie Wilmoth (KNOT1) -- P.S., while writing here, anyone ever think of fixing that welcome screen CoCoFest pointer from 90960 to 90690 where the message for it really is? :-) -*- 92062 14-MAR 23:36 General Information RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92055) From: CHYDE To: KNOT1 Try sending mail to NIMITZ here. He's taken over the MM/1 line. Chris -*- 92063 15-MAR 06:32 General Information RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92055) From: SCWEGERT To: KNOT1 David Graham is who you'd contact. I believe he's still around these parts as NIMITZ. He bought the rights to the MM/1 from Paul Ward. Out of curiosity, what did you order ... and what did you receive? *- Steve -* -*- 92064 15-MAR 21:16 General Information RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92063) From: KNOT1 To: SCWEGERT First, thanks to those that have pointed me to David Graham. I have mailed him and recieved an initial contact. Now, as to what I ordered and what I recieved: What I had ordered was pretty much a full system of your basic items: MM/1 CPU board, 3 megs RAM, two high density floppies, I/O board, case, fan, 110 meg Quantum hard drive, and Magnavox 1CM135 monitor. What I had recieved (after about a year-and-a-half waiting) was what people called the "Personal" system: CPU, case, fan, 1 meg shared CPU/video RAM, my two floppies (though one was broken), and the monitor. I never got the other 2 megs RAM, I/O board, or hard drive. So with just one floppy I've gotten it running but can't do much as far as writting code for it, which is what I had planned on. So it sits on the floor in my room unused while my CoCo3 fights on. :-) - Jamie (KNOT1) - -*- 92069 16-MAR 19:48 General Information RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92064) From: DBREEDING To: KNOT1 > First, thanks to those that have pointed me to David Graham. I have > mailed him and recieved an initial contact. Very good, now maybe you can make some progress.. > Now, as to what I ordered and what I recieved: > . I never got the other 2 megs > RAM, I/O board, or hard drive. So with just one floppy I've gotten it > running but can't do much as far as writting code for it, which is what > I had planned on. At least you have a good start, although it was very unfortunate that you did not get the rest of the stuff. One suggestion, I would try to go for a little larger HD, if you have to purchase new.. The prices have really come down and you could get probably a 500 meg for what the 110 would have cost when you first ordered. I think you'll really be thrilled when you get the MM/1 up to full force. I got into OSK about a year ago, and OSK, while almost identical in operation in most respects, is a lot more comfortable to use. (Guys, don't hit me.. it's true...). The commands have a lot of additional options that can really make life easier. My system has G-Windows. It looks worlds different from the coco system. It took me nearly six months, I guess to finally get to where I even liked the differences between it and the CoCo windows, but now, I'm totally hooked. Good luck on your upgrade, I'm sure you will really be tickled with it. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92070 16-MAR 21:07 General Information RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92069) From: KNOT1 To: DBREEDING Re: the larger hard drive. Yes, that's a very good idea. In fact I had thought of it back not all too long after I had recieved my partial system, seeing the falling prices. I'd strongly suspect that should be much more so now. And yes, does look like I may be having to repurchase the items. But at least that should be cheaper than starting a new system from scratch. -- Jamie (KNOT1) -- -*- 92079 17-MAR 21:49 General Information RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92064) From: TEDJAEGER To: KNOT1 (NR) I hope you can put your MM1 together. For a while I was like you just using the 1 meg, no HD system. I finally bought an I/O board and HD used from a guy who was selling his system. Have loved the machine ever since. Bests ---TedJaeger -*- 92084 18-MAR 00:43 General Information RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92070) From: DBREEDING To: KNOT1 (NR) > Re: the larger hard drive. Yes, that's a very good idea. In fact I > had thought of it I think you can get a 500 meg for maybe $300 or so now (SCSI might be a little higher, but not much). I have a 210 meg and have about 68% free, but haven't really done any serious scavenging yet. > And yes, does look like I may be having to repurchase > the items. But at least that should be cheaper than starting a new > system from scratch. I can't speak for Dave Graham, but he isn't affiliated with IMS, and I would think it would be impossible for him to fulfill all their outstanding obligations. I would think that he will do all that is within his ability to help you, though. I really hate to hear of anyone who loses like you did, but at least you still have a connection by which you can receive support. Have you been online all the time? If not, you may be surprised at what's available for OSK. It's really neat.. Oh, had you been using your MM/1 much or was it too inconvenient w/o a HD? -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92143 21-MAR 20:16 General Information RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92084) From: JEJONES To: DBREEDING (NR) > I think you can get a 500 meg for maybe $300 or so now (SCSI might be a > little higher, but not much). It's not. These days you can get a Quantum LP540 SCSI hard drive for something like $260. Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors. Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside -*- End of Thread. -*- 92056 14-MAR 00:14 General Information RE: Space Shuttle (Re: Msg 92031) From: VILLARREAL To: GREGL Yes, I've got a scanner and I've entered those frequencies, although I haven't heard anything when I've listened to it. I remember hearing a voice transmission from the space shuttle quite by accident a while back, a year or so ago. I had left my scanner on during the night, woke up and heard the astronauts talking. For a while I thought I was dreaming . Joe M. Villarreal -*- 92059 14-MAR 22:43 General Information RE: Printer Driver (Re: Msg 91874) From: CHYDE To: TZT Sorry to take so long getting back to you, but I got busy and haven't been online for a while. Did you try looking in the Tandy database? They may have a driver there. Chris -*- 92083 17-MAR 22:07 General Information RE: Printer Driver (Re: Msg 92059) From: TZT To: CHYDE (NR) Yes I have. I've tried Tandy, PC Sig, CoCo, and of course OS9. Also left messages on Echo Mail areas. A lot of try Epson drivers some call Radio Shack in Texas others said Write one and the rest say good luck. No help and none of that worked. There might be something wrong with the printer but it does text ok. I'm going to try to get a DOS program instead of Windows. If that is a no go I'll just have to save or wait to get a new one. My cash flow is uncertain right now (might be in a job change or loss) :( . ateful for all the help I have gotten. At least we tried. -*- End of Thread. -*- 92060 14-MAR 23:00 System Modules (6809) RE: File Managers (Re: Msg 91920) From: CHYDE To: JRB Do you have the level 1 manuals? he info you want should be in the blue manual titled _OS-9 Technical Information_. Chris -*- 92093 18-MAR 15:23 System Modules (6809) RE: File Managers (Re: Msg 92060) From: JRB To: CHYDE (NR) I have a variety of OS9 manauls - User Guide, System Programmer's manual but not a Technical Information manual. It's quite possible that the Dragon releases of OS9 were not shipped with this manual. If you could provide the relevent details or point me in the direction where I can find a copy of this manual it'd be much appreciated. Jon. -*- 92099 18-MAR 17:12 System Modules (6809) RE: File Managers (Re: Msg 92093) From: RANDYKWILSON To: JRB I'm showing Y pointing to the path descriptor and U to the caller's stack. Randy -*- End of Thread. -*- 92061 14-MAR 23:18 General Information RE: Tymenet/Sprintnet (Re: Msg 91999) From: CHYDE To: TEDJAEGER You should be able to call either (at the same number I think) and ask them about it. If I remember right they'll send you a petion form and you'll need to get so many signatures before they'll put in a node. Chris -*- 92066 15-MAR 23:23 General Information RE: Tymenet/Sprintnet (Re: Msg 92061) From: DBREEDING To: CHYDE > You should be able to call either (at the same number I think) and ask > them about it. If I remember right they'll send you a petion form and > you'll need to get so many signatures before they'll put in a node. Wonder what it takes to get a node put in? I live in a very small community, but there are several people who have modems. I doubt we would have enough, but it wouldn't hurt to try, I guess. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92078 17-MAR 21:49 General Information RE: Tymenet/Sprintnet (Re: Msg 92061) From: TEDJAEGER To: CHYDE (NR) > You should be able to call either (at the same number I think) and ask > them about it. If I remember right they'll send you a petion form and > you'll need to get so many signatures before they'll put in a node. > > Chris Thanks Chris. I now hear we have an internet provider interested in coming to Fulton but I'll pursue the idea of a Sprintnet node still Bests ---TedJaeger -*- End of Thread. -*- 92067 15-MAR 23:58 General Information Communications Decency Act. From: CHYDE To: ALL I don't remember seeing anything about this Senate Bill posted here, so I'll mention it. The Communications Decency Act (S314) is a bill that will try to censor telecomunication carriers - telephone companies, on-line services, BBSes, and such. It's aim is to make these service providers liable for indecent messages that they have (this includes private e-mail as I understand it). While it was inspired because of the alt.sex newsgroups and the availability of erotica over the net. From the information I have the bill reads something like this: The penalty for any carrier that "makes, transmits or otherwise makes available any comment, request, suggestion, proposal, image or other communication" which is found to be indecent or harassing would be a fine of $100,000 or two years in prision. Who is to decide what is indecent or harrassing is not spelled out, though I would suspect it would be something similar to current anti-porn laws (very tough to enforce). I also suspect that many carriers may start to monitor messages (at least try) to help avoid prosecutions. The cost to implement the bill would be rather large I suspect (I wonder if this would pass the Republican cost/benifit analysis ). While the ACLU, various carriers and individuals are fighting the legistlation you may want to chat with your Senator about it. Chris -*- 92073 16-MAR 22:43 General Information RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92067) From: GREGL To: CHYDE (NR) For what it's worth, such a bill would cost a lot of companies a hefty sum of money to follow. Can you imagine what it would cost to hire people to monitor every news group for "indecent" or "harassing" content? The point you mentioned is valid is well. What exactly is indecent or harassing? -- Greg -*- 92086 18-MAR 00:44 General Information RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92073) From: DBREEDING To: GREGL > Can you imagine what it would cost to hire people > to monitor every news group for "indecent" or "harassing" content? The > point you mentioned is valid is well. What exactly is indecent or > harassing? Please refer to message 92074 for an example of "indecent" language ;-) -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92092 18-MAR 12:31 General Information RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92086) From: GREGL To: DBREEDING Exactly my point. What's indecent to me may be kosher for you. Indeed, what's indecent in Tennessee is likely not in California. Nude beaches are somewhat common in California. Yet showing excess cleavage in Tennessee will get you 90 days in the slammer. :-) -- Greg -*- 92098 18-MAR 16:54 General Information RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92092) From: DBREEDING To: GREGL > Exactly my point. What's indecent to me may be kosher for you. Indeed, > what's indecent in Tennessee is likely not in California. Nude beaches are > somewhat common in California. Yet showing excess cleavage in Tennessee > will get you 90 days in the slammer. :-) Of course I was only joking in my post, but you are very correct, and it is a very delicate question. As for making sysops responsible for the content of the system, I don't think it is best. There should be an attempt to make sure material does not come through that would not be appropriate for a particular audience, I think it is unreasonable to make it mandatory for a sysop or sysadmin screen each and every bit of material that comes through, and slip-ups should be allowed for. IMO, if you want to run an adult BBS, well and good, and people have the right to use it or not. If you're in it to make a profit, I'm sure your audience will determine what they want to see. I do think that certain media should be screened. For instance, while going off on a tangent a little, I don't like to be sitting with my family or friends watching one of the major networks, expecting to be watching a "clean" show and suddenly be confronted by very explicit scenes depicting sexual activity. It can become a little embarassing at times. However, if you or a group want to watch a XXX show, I see no problem with being able to flip over and watch one. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92131 20-MAR 20:31 General Information RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92098) From: JOHNREED To: DBREEDING The idea of making sysops responsible for the content of posts seems a little like making the phone company responsible for obscene phone calls, or the post office responsible for objectionable mail. Requiring them to `make a reasonable effort' (I know, define reasonable) seems logical. Don't blame the lawmakers, they are just reacting to the acts of a few idiots, like the student at one of my state's universities who posted a `work of fiction' (kind of a gory one I hear) with a fellow student's real name in it. Mr. & Mrs Middle America just bought junior a new computer and are a little worried about what he will be getting into on the `information superhighway', so they call their congressman and tell him to `do something'. We have a lot of freedom on the various computer communication systems available, but if enough people abuse it, we WILL lose it. ******************************** John R. Wainwright <> <> -*- 92136 20-MAR 22:11 General Information RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92131) From: DBREEDING To: JOHNREED > The idea of making sysops responsible for the content of posts > seems a little like making the phone company responsible for > obscene phone calls, or the post office responsible for objectionable > mail. > > Requiring them to `make a reasonable effort' (I know, define > reasonable) seems logical. To me, resonable effort would be simply seeing to it that extremely -what shall I say - "off-color"(?) stuff does not pop up unexpectedly in places where it is not anticipated. And I know that once in a while, something _will_ pass through, but it is usually easy to tell if it is an accident. As for my opinion, I have no objection to having anything you want on a service, as long as it it going to people who want it. If there is a group of people wanting XXX graphics etc, so be it.. They should have access, but I do think a BBS that claims to be a "family" BBS should try to keep it clean. But, I think that if a sysop begins placing a lot of stuff on the BBS that the majority does not want, he'll find his user base dwindling.. Of course, if the users had paid for a particular type service, and were not getting it, then it might be another question. But as far as the government monitoring the content of a service, no way! -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92139 20-MAR 23:13 General Information RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92131) From: WA2EGP To: JOHNREED This is all very familiar to me. A while back, on amateur radio, packet to be exact, someone posted a 900 for individuals to call if they were against Desert Storm. (Should be 900 number) Well, someone bitched to the FCC and all the sysops of the packet stations who handled the message (automatically) got nice little letters asking for explanation and included threats of loss of license. (Amateur Radio operators and stations are NOT allowed to do anything for profit, the 900 number was making a "profit" from the exposure, so therefore the stations and their operators were violating the FCC rules.) Got the same results.....a fear of restriction in communication because every sysop would have to sift through the messages and kill anything that might possibly be in the "profit" catagory. Needless to say, that would certainly slow down the system. Somehow, packet radio networks survived and the FCC has lightened up on what is permissible. For the most part, the amateurs did restrict they types of messages they send (no profanity, stay away from "discussions" of religion, sex, politics) and I guess that calmed the powers that be. The network is basically back to normal. Might be some interesting parallels worth reading up on. -*- End of Thread. -*- 92068 16-MAR 04:26 OSK Applications RE: Get/Put (Re: Msg 92032) From: JOELHEGBERG To: LARRYOLSON Larry, > > I'm sort of working on a game right now (not Pacman ) > > and I've been using my Mac to make/edit sound effects. > > Great, I can't wait to see what your working on. I also hate to say it > but I will probably be going over to use my brother's ms-dos machine to > come up with the sounds. Hopefully, I'll have it done for the fest. Otherwise, I'm worried it may not get done since I start work at Microware in June... I don't know how much time I'll have after that happens! As for the sounds, that's what those other machines are good for... to help in the development of software for REAL machines. > Ok, I'll plan on the keyboard being an option, now I need some > pointers on how to do it. When any key is pressed on the keyboard, is an > event generated ? Would I use _ev_signal(), or just check _gs_rdy(), or > set up an intercept() ? The new _gs_keysns(), does it support all the > keys or just the number pad keys ? I'll have to check up on what keys are supported in the new _gs_keysns. (I have to use it in my game program as well... there was an early standard that I implemented right away and then the specs changed so I have to find out what the new way officially is!) In my program, I just check the _gs_keysns() every so often to determine if a key is pressed. Of course, the _gs_keysns call just tells you what keys are pressed down... it doesn't empty the keys from the keyboard buffer. So both of us will probably have to put a few dummy reads in our program to empty out all those characters from the keyboard buffer. -- Joel. -*- 92071 16-MAR 22:11 General Information Audio CD a last From: TEDJAEGER To: ALL Hi All, Sharing a little adventure. Must have been a year ago I bought HAWKsoft's virtual CD player only to find that the software required that the user have a revision A WD33c93 SCSI chip on their MM1 I/O board. I didn't. About a month ago I sent out a call on the Amiga hangouts on the USENET and several (about 5) people responded willing to sell me the needed SCSI chip. (They had upgraded). Bought one and went down to the local RCA place with it. I found a knowledgeable tech who pulled my non-revision A SCSI chip from my I/O board and put in a socket. Got the original chip out with no damage but the good news is the replacement chip works too and now I can use Chris's VCDP software! Hey, can anyone tell me if, on a CDI disc, there are sound files and images that can be played/displayed on the MM1? Something analogous to WAV and GIF files. Bests ---TedJaeger -*- 92094 18-MAR 15:24 General Information RE: Audio CD a last (Re: Msg 92071) From: BRUCEGERST To: TEDJAEGER I would LOVE to get a Rev A SCSI chip, can you get one for me? Any help, or direction would be appreciated! -Bruce -*- 92118 19-MAR 16:04 General Information RE: Audio CD a last (Re: Msg 92071) From: HAWKSOFT To: TEDJAEGER > Hi All, > Sharing a little adventure. Must have been a year ago I bought > HAWKsoft's virtual CD player only to find that the software required > that the user have a revision A WD33c93 SCSI chip on their MM1 I/O > board. I didn't. About a month ago I sent out a call on the Amiga > hangouts on the USENET and several (about 5) people responded willing to > sell me the needed SCSI chip. (They had upgraded). Bought one and went > down to the local RCA place with it. I found a knowledgeable tech who > pulled my non-revision A SCSI chip from my I/O board and put in a socket. > Got the original chip out with no damage but the good news is the > replacement chip works too and now I can use Chris's VCDP software! > Hey, can anyone tell me if, on a CDI disc, there are sound files > and images that can be played/displayed on the MM1? Something analogous > to WAV and GIF files. YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! Glad to hear that you were able to find one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A copy of the newest version of VCDP is on it's way!!!! Chris :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM ******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >****************** -*- 92132 20-MAR 21:10 General Information RE: Audio CD a last (Re: Msg 92094) From: TEDJAEGER To: BRUCEGERST (NR) > I would LOVE to get a Rev A SCSI chip, can you get one for me? > Any help, or direction would be appreciated! > -Bruce I have the responses from several people who offered to sell me their chip but those addresses are at my office. I'll try to remember to email them to you but if I forget nudge me! BTW, what SCSI chip is in your MM1? Bests ---TedJaeger -*- End of Thread. -*- 92074 17-MAR 01:30 General Information CDI From: COCOKIWI To: ALL WOW! I just put into my a NEW Video Card...IT WILL PLAY CDI MOVIES .......on my PC........ Dennis -*- 92088 18-MAR 01:48 General Information RE: CDI (Re: Msg 92074) From: ISC To: COCOKIWI > WOW! I just put into my a NEW Video Card...IT WILL > PLAY CDI MOVIES .......on my PC........ > Dennis > Dennis, Don't try to do anything else while the movies are playing!!! That thing will choke bigtime!!! Bill -*- 92109 19-MAR 03:16 General Information RE: CDI (Re: Msg 92088) From: COCOKIWI To: ISC NOW! Why would I want to do that??? be nice though! like when you get bored! Dennis..... -*- End of Thread. -*- 92076 17-MAR 19:22 General Information Editor From: CLTUCKER To: ALL Can someone tell me a text editor to replace the original editor on the OS9 disk? It is very slow and combersome to use.(g) cl -*- 92081 17-MAR 22:01 General Information RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92076) From: JRUPPEL To: CLTUCKER Try the Applications database here. I myself use EMACS. Many features and very useful. Also, Sled is very nice...the scale at the top makes WYSIWIG text editting easy. There are many more here, and many that are available from our dedicated Coco Vendors! Good Luck! John Ruppel CocoNuts in Lansing -*- 92082 17-MAR 22:01 General Information RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92076) From: REVKAK To: CLTUCKER The two text editors that I would recommend are: VED by Bob van der Poel and Dynastar from Frank Hogg. VED is currently available; Dynastar is not. Of course there is TSEDIT from Radio Shack. There are several patches here on Delphi for TSEDIT. There are several freeware/shareware editors in the databases. I cannot speak for or against them as I have \ not used them. If you do a lot of text work, I would recommend getting Zack Sessions WPShel along with TSSpell (spell checker) from Radio Shack. As you can see there are many ways to go in this area. Hope this helps. Best wishes, Keith -*- 92087 18-MAR 00:44 General Information RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92076) From: DBREEDING To: CLTUCKER > Can someone tell me a text editor to replace the original editor on the > OS9 disk? It is very slow and combersome to use.(g) You have a couple replies already. One suggestion they made is to get some of the editors from the database here.. I never got started using them, have them but never started with them.. I used Ved on the coco. It is rather easy to use, and in conjunction with its companion text formatter vprint and a good printer, you can output some really professional-looking text. I've used scred that comes with the Development Pak. It has some pretty good features, but it has one bug that will crash if you hit an alt-key comination.. If you use it, I have a patch for it. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92089 18-MAR 01:48 General Information RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92076) From: ISC To: CLTUCKER > Can someone tell me a text editor to replace the original editor on the > OS9 disk? It is very slow and combersome to use.(g) > cl > CL, Try a few of the editors here in the Database. They all have feechers and faults, but there are some useful ones. Another suggestion is VED from Bob van der Poel. I don't have his address in front of me now, but I will get it for you or someone here will supply it before I do. Email me if you need it. Bob also wrote and sells VPrint which is a powerful text formatter. The two are a good word processing combo for the CoCo and OS9. Bill -*- 92103 18-MAR 22:30 General Information RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92087) From: CLTUCKER To: DBREEDING I just got VED in the mail today. Looks like a good pgm. A lot like Simply Better. Having ome pblm though. Like when you kill a line Alt-K in the middle of a paragraph, how do you fill in the blank space with the following text? (g) cl -*- 92104 18-MAR 22:33 General Information RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92089) From: CLTUCKER To: ISC I just found VPrint in todays mail. Got to get er up & runnin. If Ved & VPrint do the job looks like there's no reason for hanging out with DECB anymore.(g) -*- 92122 19-MAR 20:14 General Information RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92103) From: DBREEDING To: CLTUCKER > I just got VED in the mail today. Looks like a good pgm. A lot like > Simply Better. Having ome pblm though. Like when you kill a line Alt-K > in the middle of a paragraph, how do you fill in the blank space > with the following text? (g) Which VED are you running, CoCo or OSK? What Alt-K does is kill off everything from the cursor position to, but not including, the next Carriage Return. At least in the CoCo version. I think it asks you if you're sure if the line wraps to the next line. All you need to do is start typing, if in Insert mode to add more text. If you want to close up the line, just hit the delete-character key (Break on the CoCo) to delete the CR. By George, I'm going to send in my order for Ved today, darn it! -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92123 19-MAR 20:14 General Information RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92104) From: DBREEDING To: CLTUCKER > I just found VPrint in todays mail. Got to get er up & runnin. If Ved & > VPrint do the job looks like there's no reason for hanging out > with DECB anymore.(g) I agree. While it might take a little more effort to get the final product than with some more integrated software, I feel that your capability with it is almost unlimited - well, limited probably more by your printer than anything else. I think they have even got a few config files out that support lazer printers. I've not tried to do much fancy printing, but on one occasion I did a little project and was really impressed by the way it turned out. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92126 19-MAR 23:57 General Information RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92104) From: ISC To: CLTUCKER > I just found VPrint in todays mail. Got to get er up & runnin. If Ved & > VPrint do the job looks like there's no reason for hanging out > with DECB anymore.(g) > CL, Your next move would be to get WPShel from COLORSYSTEMS here and then TSSpell from Tandy. Add Vu from the database here and you would have a full-blown powerful word processing package. Good Luck. Bill -*- 92130 20-MAR 19:56 General Information RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92126) From: CLTUCKER To: ISC Ok Bill. I really like this VED. Sooo easy and fast to use.(g) cl -*- 92145 22-MAR 02:50 General Information RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92130) From: ISC To: CLTUCKER (NR) > Ok Bill. I really like this VED. Sooo easy and fast to use.(g) > cl > CL, Yup. Now when you get VPrint configured to format your text to your printer, you're in business. Bill -*- End of Thread. -*- 92077 17-MAR 21:19 General Information general From: CFDMRICK To: ALL The "final" issue of the CoCo Registry has been mailed. This "final" issue has 422 records of active CoCoists plus over 20 ads from CoCo companies. Sort of like continuing series of "last CoCo fests", there may be another "final" issue of the Registry as soon as we hit 500 records. The price will be $7. If you are not in the Registry and would like to be, put your name and address in my mailbox and I'll get you a Registry Data Form in the mail. CFDMRICK -*- 92095 18-MAR 15:56 General Information UPGRADE MAgazine From: MRUPGRADE To: THETAURUS Well, Chris you shouldda' got our last issue by now. And remmeber one can (grin) close their eyes and type DOS,, and pretend it's all OS-9. Cept you don't get the drive noise. So,,, whatta ya think?? Terry Simons UPGRADE Editor -*- 92100 18-MAR 21:49 General Information StG BBS... trying to get to work From: RICKADAMS To: JEVESTAL I've got the BBS almost up and running. You can connect, go through a new user validation, etc, no problem. But any attempt to actually log on causes the Coco to crash. Popping up a login from the BBS crashes. Logging in over the modem crashes. It echos the password as stars, no problem... you hit RETURN at the end of the password... and it goes kablooie. Whaddyathink? -*- 92115 19-MAR 14:09 General Information RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92100) From: MITHELEN To: RICKADAMS Rick, are you running the "demo" version, or do you have a Registered system name, and net password? If you tried changeing the system name, and did not enter the proper net password.. it WILL cause a crash. It is also possible that perhaps you got the wrong net password for you system name if you are a registered user... Note that you System name MUST be tryped exactly as it was when you applied for you net password (ie, case sensative) If you are just running as a unregistered system, it could be that you got a bad copy of the CIA module... I might have a good copy of the generic CIA module around here if you need a replacement. -- Paul -*- 92117 19-MAR 14:59 General Information RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92115) From: RICKADAMS To: MITHELEN I'm running the version that's here in the group STG NETWORK BBS V3.0. The description of that version says that registration is necessary for network connectivity. But that version also won't let you run the BBS unless you enter a system name. I entered a system name but hit RETURN for the net password... is that a problem? If so, perhaps the unregistered use of that version is more "crippled" than I realized... you can't run it unregistered at all? Or am I off here? I don't mind registering it, but it'd be nice to get it to run first. Do I need to switch to the "demo" version? Obviously, I'm a little confused. Perhaps greatly confused. :) I'll give the docs another run-through. Thanks for your help. -*- 92119 19-MAR 17:06 General Information RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92117) From: MITHELEN To: RICKADAMS You cannot change/set the system name without having a net password... It SHOULD run fine withough haveing the system name set from the "logins" program, just no network capability. Try extracting the CIA data module from the archive, and replaceing the modified copy with the fresh one from the archive... -- Paul -*- 92120 19-MAR 19:56 General Information RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92119) From: RICKADAMS To: MITHELEN I tried a fresh CIA module, and when I use bbsboot to boot up the BBS, it immediately fires up logins, cause it thinks the BBS is not set up, cause there's no system name. If you quit out of logins at that point, it goes right back to logins for the same reason. Hmmm. -*- 92125 19-MAR 20:29 General Information RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92120) From: RICKADAMS To: MITHELEN I tried a second time with a fresh CIA. No go. Within that CIA, the system name is _UNKNOWN and the serial number 0842108421. Is there a different CIA that should be used? -*- 92128 20-MAR 01:14 General Information RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92125) From: MITHELEN To: RICKADAMS Hmm... It has been a LONG time since I ran StG on a CoCo... And I don't have a functional CoCo here right now to do experimenting on... The system name in CIS should be _UNKNOWN for a non registered sytem... and more then likely the serial number is correct that you listed. (Still haven't dug up my old CoCo StG archives) I'm thinking maybe something else hasn't been done that is necessary... Have you run through the rest of the logins options... especially the port and dir setup options... I'll try logging into Carl's CoCo tonight, and see if I can figure anything out (assumeing his system is running) and report back if I find something ASAP... -- Paul -*- 92129 20-MAR 09:14 General Information RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92128) From: RICKADAMS To: MITHELEN Yep, ran through the port and dir setup options in logins. For some reason it won't boot the BBS cause it thinks that the system is not setup. And if you enter the system name, it DOES think it's set up, but then it crashes when you log a user into the BBS. If you enter an incorrect password, it tells you so and gives you another login prompt. But once a correct password is entered, kaboom. Pretty little sparklies and a locked-up system. -*- 92141 21-MAR 01:46 General Information RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92129) From: MITHELEN To: RICKADAMS Hmm... I'm baffled... I wasn't able to get into Carls system last night, and didn't get to talk to him today, so he would make sure the system was running tonight (i'll try it again when I logg off here) I might actually have a coco running at my house by thursday (fingers crossed). -- Paul -*- End of Thread. -*- 92105 19-MAR 00:42 OSK Applications MM/1 joystick From: LARRYOLSON To: ALL Help.... A couple of month's ago Mike Haaland left a message about a problem with the MM/1 joystick. I thought that I had saved the message, but I can't find it anywhere. Is there anyone that might have a copy of that message, that they could re-post. Larry -*- 92111 19-MAR 10:50 OSK Applications My_Mail From: VAXELF To: MITHELEN Can you take a look at my e-mail. It contains somekind of error and as results, I can not read or send e-mail. I am sending this to GREGL too, just in case. John D. -*- 92114 19-MAR 14:00 OSK Applications RE: My_Mail (Re: Msg 92111) From: MITHELEN To: VAXELF There is no way for me (and I doubt the Greg can) to read/access another users mail... Your best bet is to contact SERVICE if there is indeed a problem... or, maybe if you post a capture buffer of the error message you are getting we can figure it out... (Or email Greg and/or me a copy) -- Paul -*- 92121 19-MAR 20:01 OSK Applications RE: My_Mail (Re: Msg 92111) From: JOHNBAER To: VAXELF John, > Can you take a look at my e-mail. It contains somekind of error and as > results, I can not read or send e-mail. Delphi has/had hardware problems today. Tell SERVICE about this. If you really want to get at this mail.mai file, you could `copy' it to `something.txt' and try to download that. Don't touch that mail.mai file otherwise, cause SERVICE can fix it. Later.. John Baer -*- 92134 20-MAR 21:21 OSK Applications RE: My_Mail (Re: Msg 92121) From: VAXELF To: JOHNBAER John, I got the message when I logon on today and also discovered that now my mail is OK. The first time I loged on, I didn't get any message about hardware problems, but the mail was unreadable and would error if I tried to send mail. Now it is all OK, can read and send mail fine. Thanks for the reply. I'll have to remember that next time something werid like that happens again. John D. -*- 92140 21-MAR 00:00 OSK Applications RE: My_Mail (Re: Msg 92134) From: JOHNBAER To: VAXELF John, Glad everything is working for you now. I got that info from the `service' Forum. IF you can copy the file, then you can download the copy. I didn't know how important this file was that you wanted to get at it, that's why the reply :). John Baer - -*- End of Thread. -*- 92112 19-MAR 10:52 OSK Applications My_Mail From: VAXELF To: GREGL Greg, Can you or Paul take a look at my e-mail. I can not read or send e-mail or even delete the bad file. Thank you in advance. John D. -*- 92133 20-MAR 21:12 General Information CMDS From: CLTUCKER To: ALL Can someone tell me why: When I copy a cmds pgm from one disk to cmds on another disk I have to reboot from the new disk before the pgm will work? I have a ptr routine that I made from Procedure then packed it. Works OK on the original disk. When I copy it to the cmds dir of a new disk it will not work. Any ideas?(g) -*- 92135 20-MAR 22:00 General Information RE: CMDS (Re: Msg 92133) From: REVKAK To: CLTUCKER Have you tried chx "new cmds directory" ? I used to do that a lot until I finally remembered where everything is. Try pxd to see where your cmds directory is. Keith -*- 92137 20-MAR 22:11 General Information RE: CMDS (Re: Msg 92133) From: DBREEDING To: CLTUCKER > Can someone tell me why: > When I copy a cmds pgm from one disk to cmds on another disk I have to > reboot from the new disk before the pgm will work? I have a ptr > routine that I made from Procedure then packed it. Works OK on the > original disk. When I copy it to the cmds dir of a new disk it > will not work. I assumme you're talking about a Basic program? Did you chx to that disk or call it using a complete pathlist? There is a bug in the shell, or something, which does not allow this, if memory serves. If you have a packed program in, say /d1/cmds, you can't type the command "/d1/cmds/program" and get it to run.. runb (or shell?) looks for a module with the name of the full pathlist (or so I think), and it just will not work. You can chx to that directory, or you could do something like this: (chx /d1/cmds;program) Of course that will give you an extra shell in procs, but it will work, and upon completion, you will be returned to the original commands directory. Hope this helps. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** -*- 92142 21-MAR 19:23 General Information RE: CMDS (Re: Msg 92133) From: JOHNREED To: CLTUCKER Let me add one little point to the other replies -- because this used to confuse me. Lets say you have your commands dir set to `/d0/cmds' and everything is working fine. Now you put a different disk in `/d0'. This disk also has a directory `/d0/cmds' BUT unless it is an exact copy of the original disk -- that is one made with `backup' or something similar -- your commands dir setting is no longer valid. You still have to `chx /d0/cmds' so your system can find `/d0/cmds' on the new disk. I cussed my poor old COCO several times before I caught on to that. ******************************** John R. Wainwright <> <> -*- 92146 22-MAR 03:29 General Information RE: CMDS (Re: Msg 92142) From: ISC To: JOHNREED (NR) > Let me add one little point to the other replies -- because this > used to confuse me. > > Lets say you have your commands dir set to `/d0/cmds' and everything > is working fine. > > Now you put a different disk in `/d0'. This disk also has a directory > `/d0/cmds' BUT unless it is an exact copy of the original disk -- that > is one made with `backup' or something similar -- your commands dir > setting is no longer valid. You still have to `chx /d0/cmds' so your > system can find `/d0/cmds' on the new disk. > > I cussed my poor old COCO several times before I caught on to that. > ******************************** > John R. Wainwright <> <> > John, It is important to remember that there is a sensor in the diskette drive which tells the computer that the diskette has been removed. Bill -*- End of Thread. -*- 92144 22-MAR 00:01 General Information HD From: CLTUCKER To: JEJONES (NR) Can you tell me the source to purchase a /h1 for the 4IN1? Those sounded like reasonable prices. Huh?(g). Also cables and necessary drivers. :-> cl -*- FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit>