read new nonstop follow 92446 24-APR 20:41 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92445) From: MITHELEN To: NETCRUISER I picked up the CD's at a local computer show... But, here is the info listed on the back of the case for InfoMagic: InfoMagic P.O. Box 30370 Flagstaff, AZ 86003-0370 Tel: (602)-526-9565 Fax: (602)-526-9573 Internet: info@infomagic.com -- Paul -*- 92447 24-APR 20:51 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92379) From: CHARLESAM To: COCOKIWI Dennis, where can one obtain Win-95 and how much did it set you back? I won't mind trying it out. Charlie -*- 92450 24-APR 21:19 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92390) From: JOHNBAER To: KSCALES Ken, > A port is being done ... Note that this is not necessarily equivalent > to being a version targetted for the specific hardware architecture ... This makes sense, since there will be a `standard' platform coming out in about a year, that IBM & Apple agreed upon.. from what I hear. > I know that a version of AIX has been ported to run on PowerPC-based > VME systems -- we will be using this in one of our products at work. > Again, dunno if a specific port for the Mac PPC architecture is in the > works. What I've heard was that IBM & Apple will take the `best' of there oun versions of unix and release this.. this was being plained anyway :) > Right now, I highly doubt that any of this would draw me into getting > a system based upon the current Mac architecture. There's that key word ... current :) As for that dusty CC3, I'm in the same boat.. minus the `pc' :) Later - John -*- 92453 24-APR 21:38 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92446) From: NETCRUISER To: MITHELEN thanks! ill be sending email within the hour... -*- 92458 25-APR 00:00 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92438) From: GREGL To: MITHELEN Interesting, indeed. I haven't seen the InfoMagic release of Linux but it does sound like it's quite a bundle of stuff with three CDs. I found one company selling the Slackware release for about $80 or so and decided to skip it until I found a better deal elsewhere. Oh well, I really don't have enough room left to install Linux anyway. Maybe after the dust settles I'll pick up a new box and dedicate this one to Linux. -- Greg -*- 92459 25-APR 00:00 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92414) From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40 > Intel chip. Now, I do know that the 486 is slowly taking back- > seat to the newer Pentium, but, the way I see it is that the 486 > will probably be around for a long time to come. No doubt. I see the experts still recommending 486's to new purchasers. I don't think it will be outdated for quite a while. > I know, basically, I want the power of the PC just to take > advantage of the vastness of the Internet. I spent about 4 hours > on it just last Sunday! Gosh! I envy you I just came on and downloaded a big newsgroup before I came in and got this with IX. Took about an hour to get it (first time). All the time, I kept thinking about my l/d charges - you lucky dog. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** -*- 92460 25-APR 00:01 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92415) From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40 > Programming on the CoCo, for me, is just that, for fun. But, I Well, this is partially true for me, too. But I do have this ambition of perhaps developing some good user programs to help get at least a small foothold in the personal market. Probably will never happen in the way I see it, but I still have this hope. > also do it for the learning adventure. Just a couple of weeks ago > I learned how to set/clear the LSB in a byte. I am working on a > project that, among other things, I needed to retrieve the name > from a disk. OS-9 sets the least significant bit to indicate the > end of a string. It's the most significant bit, to be exact But yes, something like this is a real educational experience... Often in my attempts to write programs, I've taken off on a tangent exploring some little quirk that has nothing to do with the program on which I'm working. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** -*- 92461 25-APR 00:01 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92419) From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40 > Uh, duhh! In message #92415, that should have been MSB Most > Significant Bit, not LSB. See, still learning! And I say... Oops.. I corrrected it and didn't need to -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** -*- 92463 25-APR 02:47 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92447) From: COCOKIWI To: CHARLESAM you dial microsofts 1-800 number ....AH!here it is.... 1-800-957-7384.....automated phone line! Have the credit card ready price $27.95 + s/h and whatever local tax! around $32.00 Dennis -*- 92464 25-APR 02:51 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92459) From: COCOKIWI To: DBREEDING lot of reasons for the slow change...a lot of 486/586 boards would NOT work when a new chip was installed!............ Dennis -*- 92469 25-APR 20:28 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92414) From: JOHNREED To: 01GEN40 > trusty little CoCo. Your right, if I want to stay with OS-9, I > will have to upgrade to a 68K machine. But, like you said, it > can be a much more expensive endevour than going with a PC. As I was talking to Bill Wittman on the phone yesterday, and he plans to have a working model of his new OS-9/68k computer at the Chicago fest. This sounds like a good choice for a budget entry into OS-9/68k. There was a full description posted here some time ago. John ******************************** John R. Wainwright <> <> -*- 92472 25-APR 22:09 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92427) From: DBREEDING To: MITHELEN > Well... I travel around to many offices in and around Chicago for work, > and in the last few months, almost ALL of them have partially, or totally > switched over to OS/2... And it seems that most people tend to use the > same setup at home as they do at work... So.. I think OS/2 is here to stay > and will make a major dent in the home system market this year... I do hope so. I have not even seen it in in real life, but from what I hear, it is really great. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** -*- 92473 25-APR 22:16 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92463) From: CHARLESAM To: COCOKIWI What experience have you had with it(Windows-95)so far? thanx Charlie -*- 92477 25-APR 23:38 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92473) From: COCOKIWI To: CHARLESAM Have not got it YET! it takes around 3/6 weeks for delivery..will let you know when it arrives....... Dennis -*- 92487 26-APR 21:08 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92472) From: ISC To: DBREEDING > I do hope so. I have not even seen it in in real life, but from what I hear, > it is really great. > > -- David Breeding -- > CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING > *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** > It's just more PC ca-ca. (OS/2) Bill -*- 92507 30-APR 12:36 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92459) From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING Hi Dave, Yeah, well you know what they say... "That's life in the BIG city." Last Sunday I spent 6 hours and 8 minutes on line, 4 of which was on the Internet. I think I have finally gone over my 20 hours on Delphi. I will know when I get my next statement. Needless to say, I will not be going on the Internet today, for that reason and because I have to do some studying on this course in Computer Repair I am taking. Got a new hands on kit in the mail yesterday, I like "hands on"! Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars... Peace and Long Life... Siran of Vulcan (CMDR) -= GEN =- -*- 92508 30-APR 12:50 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92460) From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING Hi again, Yeah, I realized the error of the MSB minutes after I left that message and left an updated message correcting it. I do not get much time to work on my programming projects since I am taking that course I mentioned in the last message. But, I do get to it when I can. Can you believe this? I am currently building my 486 box from scratch as I can afford it (just got a Cyrix 486DX2-66MHz CPU yesterday 4/29), and I will be getting a 486SX from this course as well. I thought I was already hip deep in computers right now (about 10 at last count). Some do not work, just have them for parts. 2 are backups to this CoCo I am using right now. A CoCo 2 I use to program the Plug 'N' Power remote controller I have for light and... I have an old Apple that someone just gave to me, Do not know if it even works. Got 2 XTs that I had to buy just to get this RLL hard drive that was in one of them... See what I mean? Oh well... Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars... Peace and Long Life... Siran of Vulcan (CMDR) -= GEN =- -*- 92509 30-APR 12:55 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92469) From: 01GEN40 To: JOHNREED Hi John, Right now, with what I have invested in putting my 486 to- gether and this course I am taking, I will have to wait for quite some time before I could even think about getting an OS-9/68K machine even at an entry level price. Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars... LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! Peace and Long Life... Siran of Vulcan (CMDR) -= GEN =- -*- 92511 30-APR 16:54 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92508) From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40 > I do > not get much time to work on my programming projects since I am > taking that course I mentioned in the last message. But, I do > get to it when I can. Yes, sometimes it seems so hard to find time to do all you want to do.. And writing programs is so time-consuming, at least for me.. Programming is actually a learning project for me, and often I find myself stumbling across some feature and begin studying it and experimenting with variations on it. Many times I spend maybe a week exploring this new "feature" before I get back to my main programming project. Right now, I'm finally beginning to get into G-Windows programming. There is a whole bunch of calls and stuff I'll need to get familiar with. The Development System I got has about 270 pages (size of those for OS9 L-2 docs). Mostly you have one code per page. Well - actually they are for the most part parameters passed by one of two functions, and these functions have a Set and a Get function call. I just spent a week trying to figure out how to get the text to write in the correct colors, and it was pretty simple after it finally dawned on me. > Can you believe this? I am currently > building my 486 box from scratch as I can afford it (just got a > Cyrix 486DX2-66MHz CPU yesterday 4/29), and I will be getting > a 486SX from this course as well. I thought I was already > hip deep in computers right now (about 10 at last count). Wow! Where do you put them all? I actually own 4, my Delmar machine, One coco-3 set up on the kitchen cabinet, another coco-3 at my brother's, and a coco-2 I loaned out (and never expect to get back). I would like to have a "mainline" machine but have no idea where I'd put it ... Well, TTYL... -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** -*- 92512 30-APR 16:54 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92509) From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40 01GEN said to To JOHNREED: > Right now, with what I have invested in putting my 486 to- > gether and this course I am taking, I will have to wait for > quite some time before I could even think about getting an > OS-9/68K machine even at an entry level price. > Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars... Well, there's no doubt that it's at the very least an expensive proposition by the time you get everything you need. And if you need compatibility, then you need your compatible machine first. But I must say that I'm really having a ball with my system. At times I look at the compatible people and wish I could do a few of the things they are doing, but maybe someday... -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** -*- 92536 7-MAY 12:21 General Information RE: What is happening here? (Re: Msg 92511) From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING (NR) Hi Dave, I have a 2 bedroom apartment (living alone) and I have set up the smaller one for my computting and course studies. I have a computer desk with printer stand that I have this CoCo 3 sprawled all over. This is along 2 walls. Right next to the desk I have a 3 drawer dresser which holds all my CoCo software, blank disks, PC software, printer ribbons... On it I have a CoCo 3 with 512k that I use for playing games on, when I get a chance. On the 3rd wall I have a conference table where I do my course studies. I have a CoCo 2 stored in the corner where the table and dresser meet. In the closet, I have my original CoCo 3 stored for sentimental reasons. I also have my computer books and more software on the shelf. In the other bedroom I store all the rest of the computers and peripherals. I even have the Xenix OS and software for a 286, if you can believe that. Why? I do not know! Maybe I will give one of these 486s to my son and use his 286 to check it out. Who knows? All I need now, to get my 486 launched, is memory and video. I can taste the speed on the Internet already. I would say that it will be running within the next 2 months. I just got a line on an 85Meg HD that I want for this CoCo. MFM, will not have to fiddle with the RLL any more. I know this one is in good condition, it sits in a 386 at work which is just idle right now. The boss is going to get new software for the company, against my better judgement, but then again, he's the BOSS. The software owner wants to see if he can use the 386 as a server with a SCSI drive in it. I can see the boss' point, local support and such. I just do not like the software. Well Dave, I hope you have a better idea as to where a packrat keeps all his computers. One of these days I am going to have to take some of this stuff to the swap meet and sell it to someone else like me. :> Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars... LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! Peace and Long Life... Siran of Vulcan (CMDR) -= GEN =- -*- End of Thread. -*- 92448 24-APR 21:01 General Information RE: mpi 26-3124 (Re: Msg 92343) From: CHARLESAM To: TAULBORG MPI for you, upgraded. Are you going to the fest? If not, E-mail me with an offer. Charlie -*- 92468 25-APR 19:56 General Information RE: mpi 26-3124 (Re: Msg 92393) From: NEALSTEWARD To: TAULBORG Unfortunately, the SCII and the B&B require a MultiPak. However, if you did have low power draw packs, you can run a multiple y-cable. The one on our OS-9 Level II BBS has a 4 way cable, with an LR Tech HD interface, a Ken-Ton Dual Comm pak, a Tandy Floppy Controller, and at this time a spare in case we want to add another Dual Comm pak for 4 lines. We used to have 2 running, but with declining membership, we reduced it to 1 line. The club is the Erie County Color Computer Club (ecccc), and have been around since about 1982. The BBS number is (716)649-1368, 8 bit, not parity, 3/12/2400 bps. Our newsletter is available for downloading on our system. Usually only a page or two, so long distance won't be too much. Does your club run a BBS? -*- 92475 25-APR 22:34 General Information RE: mpi 26-3124 (Re: Msg 92448) From: TAULBORG To: CHARLESAM I can only offer you $20 plus shipping,I know that that is probably not what you were looking for but it is ALL I can afford right now!With a new daughter the money is really tight but the coco spirit lives on! Please reply even if you think my offer sucks! Steven P Tualborg -*- 92476 25-APR 22:55 General Information RE: mpi 26-3124 (Re: Msg 92468) From: TAULBORG To: NEALSTEWARD We don't run a BBS but we do have space on tinternet,We can be found at freenet of Columbus ohio,just look for freenets and look for special interest groups I think and we are there!There is only info there but if you can leave a message we can get any legal files that we can to you.Our newsletter is NOT online but I hope to get it that way!We are a small club but we are still hereand plan to stay that way for a while.if you would like to swap newsletters via US mail please let me know! Steven P Taulborg Delphi Taulborg Internet staulborg@freenet.columbus.oh.usa -*- End of Thread. -*- 92449 24-APR 21:12 General Information RE: Complete CoCo3 OS-9 Package. (Re: Msg 92403) From: CHARLESAM To: CARL_D Carl, I got all your stated hardware and then some. And I am going to the fest. If your interested, e-mail me and maybe we can make a deal. I'll bring all your hardware with me. Charlie -*- 92451 24-APR 21:19 General Information RE: press return to continue? (Re: Msg 92426) From: JOHNBAER To: MITHELEN Hey Paul, > Sorry for messing all you off-line reader users up guys! My fault! (he,he).. It's funny now, but you can just imagine the `fun' when you login and... clunk :) > ... Sorry for the problems... Hey, no problem, it did get fixed . Later Paul .. John - -*- 92452 24-APR 21:23 General Information RE: RLL HD Troubles. (Re: Msg 92423) From: HAWKSOFT To: 01GEN40 > Hello to all, > > Well, once again, I am in search of some problem solving. Basically, > what I am doing is trying to upgrade my CoCos hard drive from an MFM to > an RLL. (No I am not tring to make my MFM an RLL, that is beyond the > Now, here is the problem. Using both of the parameter setups stated > above, when trying to format the hard drive I receive ERROR #208 - Il- > legal Service Request. > I have made 1 major modification to the controller card, I removed > the "ROM" and soldered in a socket so I could use my XT-ROM. No other > modifications were made. I know that this hard drive works. I pulled Just a quick thought. You did use a driver that is capable of formatting the drive?? Yes??? If the driver BB??hdisk does not have an F in it i.e. BBFhdisk, the driver will not format the drive. This would give you the 208 error. Chris :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM ******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >****************** -*- 92504 30-APR 12:09 General Information RE: RLL HD Troubles. (Re: Msg 92429) From: 01GEN40 To: WDTV5 Hi Gene, The only thing I am trying to change is the HD and its controller. The conntroller is in my existing B&B interface and it will be in slot #3. As in my original message, all configurations remained the same save for the HD and controller. I have a new clock module and have updated many of my other system modules as well. My system clock is updated from the hardware clock about every minute. The system clock is automatically set at bootup without the use of B&Bs clkget module. I do use the clkset module to update the hardware clock such as when we have a time change. I do not remember any- thing said about the slot # being, what did you say, 1 less than what is entered into ddmaker. I will go over my docs for the B&B interface and ddmaker to verify this and if so will redo my descrip- tor again. Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars... LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! Peace and Long Life... Siran of Vulcan (CMDR) -= GEN =- -*- 92505 30-APR 12:17 General Information RE: RLL HD Troubles. (Re: Msg 92443) From: 01GEN40 To: NETCRUISER (NR) From what I understand, Chris is very hard to get ahold of. I cannot wait very long for any kind of reply from him. I do not know how much life is let in this ailing ST-225. Like I said, I shut it down when not doing any accesses such as when I am on line right now. I have OSterm on a ram disk and run solely from it. Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars... LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! Peace and Long Life... Siran of Vulcan (CMDR) -= GEN =- -*- 92506 30-APR 12:28 General Information RE: RLL HD Troubles. (Re: Msg 92452) From: 01GEN40 To: HAWKSOFT Hi Chris, When I originally setup an HD on this CoCo, I renamed the format- table driver BBFHDISK to BBHDISK so that I could format a sec- ond hard drive as well. I cobblered a freshly formatted disk using the OS9Boot file on the ST-225 and only updated the hd module for use of the RLL HD.. I think I am going to persue the idea that Gene gave me about the slot # being 1 less than that which is entered into ddmaker. Since I entered slot #3 I will put the controller into slot #2 and see if this solves the problem with my ERROR 208. Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars... LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! Peace and Long Life... Siran of Vulcan (CMDR) -= GEN =- -*- 92514 30-APR 21:48 General Information RE: RLL HD Troubles. (Re: Msg 92504) From: WDTV5 To: 01GEN40 When I was refering to the slot being 1 less than the number on the mpi slot, that was in reference to slot 1 actually being a zero in the descriptor, etc. ddmaker as I recall, handles that. The clock you're running however may not be as bulletproof. I tried to use that one myself and wound up disassembling it to find that not all the so-called ed 9 fixes were in it. I seem to recall that after 2-3 aborted attemps to repair it, i gave up and went back to the ed 9 version. Then about that time, I bought a supercontroller II and 4n1 plus a 7120s Maxtor drive. So I had to start fixing clocks all over again and eventually have one that works for this Nitros9 system and the 4n1. Now the only problem with it is the powerup/down glitches will destroy one, sometimes 2 of the hardware registers in this clock chip requireing it be set again. Problems with that, along with the need to drop back to (ugghhh) RSDOS to set the thing caused me to rewrite the clock again. This one sets itself from the hardware every few minutes and at bootup, has an alarm that works, has the F$Stime added back in so I can use "setime" to set it, all that. I've passed it out here and there but I don't know at this late date if its in the database here. Its pretty specific to the Disto 4n1 and Nitros9 though. For anyone who has this setup, I'd be glad to mail it to them if they request it. As to the -27x controller, I've had lots of errors made byt it. But time will tell, I now have the drive on my office machine running as an MFM drive in tandem with an awfully old 10 meg Tandon which has never lost a byte! If the drive turns flacky now at MFM standards, then it really was a junker all along. Give me another month and I'll be able to tell. I seemed to reduce, but not kill completely, the errors I had by replacing the -27x with a Seagate ST-11r controller. That required a reformatting of the drive as the two rll controllers apparently didn't in fact speak the same language at the drive cable. Let me look around and see if I can ident the clock I tried to patch up for that setup. If my notes say it worked, I'll mail you a copy. The stocker for that setup will miss up to 4 chars in a row several times a minute while downloading at 2400 baud, thats its trademark. Good luck otherwise Gene, Gene -*- 92521 3-MAY 00:19 General Information RE: RLL HD Troubles. (Re: Msg 92514) From: REVKAK To: WDTV5 Gene, I too use the Disto 4-in-1 and Nitro. Would very much like to look at and use your clock module. Could you please send me a copy with docs? Thanks, Keith -*- 92528 6-MAY 19:41 General Information RE: RLL HD Troubles. (Re: Msg 92521) From: WDTV5 To: REVKAK Sure, just let me get it together again. I did send it to Tony, but I don't know where it went from there. Also sent it to Alan/Colin too, but that was a version or 2 of nitro back. You are here, so I can mail you binaries, check your mailbox Sunday evening or so. Cheers Keith, Gene -*- 92537 7-MAY 12:47 General Information RE: RLL HD Troubles. (Re: Msg 92514) From: 01GEN40 To: WDTV5 (NR) Hello Gene, Don't you just hate it when someone says "Hi Gene"? Makes you think of cleanlyness! I have not had a chance to work on the RLL descriptor again. Be- sides that, I just got a line on an 85Meg MFM Seagate HD. It sits in a 386 at work and I told the boss I wanted to by it if we use it (the 386) as a server with a SCSI drive in it. He has already told me I could. I may just let this RLL collect dust. As far as the clock, I have had absolutely no problems with it. I would have to check my logbook to see which clock module it is that I found. As far as disassembly and hacking, the closest I came to doing something like that was when I did my patch to INIT to load cc3go from the CMDS directory and a 1 byte fix to fix something that was mentioned by Kevin Darling. I would have to read the docs to remember what it was. If I remember right, I think it had something to do with the device table, ahh I do not remember. That was about 3 years ago I think. That 1 byte fix was also done by accident. I knew about it and changed it somewhere along the line. You know, I just thought of something. An MFM HD cannot be used as an RLL but, if I am not mistaken, I think that an RLL can be used as an MFM. I seem to remember reading about that somewhere. Is it possible to do? If it is, that will be my second course of action if I cannot get the 85 Megger. Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars... LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! Peace and Long Life... Siran of Vulcan (CMDR) -= GEN =- -*- End of Thread. -*- 92454 24-APR 21:39 General Information fest From: NETCRUISER To: ALL hey, what are the chances of a fest happening in Washington DC one of these years? -*- 92455 24-APR 23:03 General Information RE: fest (Re: Msg 92454) From: MITHELEN To: NETCRUISER Well, the way it works, for both the Chicago and Atlanta Fests, is that a local club set sponsers it, does all the work organizeing it, puts out the initial capital for reserveing a place to hold it, aranges hotel "bargins", makes up add copy, and all that "leg work". So the odds of a Fest happening somewhere else (like D.C.) is dependant on if there is a strong support group already in that area to do that kind of work and to make the financial commitment. If one happens, though, I'll be there. Always wanted an excuse to take a trip out that way... -- Paul -*- 92465 25-APR 17:54 General Information RE: fest (Re: Msg 92455) From: NETCRUISER To: MITHELEN hmmm. i dont know if there is support for it out here or not. Im kinda in a vacuum that way. as far as i know im the only one! (but of course i must be wrong, right? hello? hello! anyone there!!! ;\ ) -r -*- 92481 26-APR 01:42 General Information RE: fest (Re: Msg 92465) From: CARL_D To: NETCRUISER (NR) hmmm. i dont know if there is support for it out here or not. Im kinda in a vacuum that way. as far as i know im the only one! (but of course i must be wrong, right? hello? hello! anyone there!!! ;\ ) -r --------- Believe it or not, I was at the local Chess Club, when I was explaining to a friend exactly where it was I was going this weekend (to the Fest o'course) when another guy asked about what computer I was talking about. Turns out he was a former cocoist also! Seems were all over the place you just have to sniff us out. :) Cheers, NET. -*- End of Thread. -*- 92456 24-APR 23:09 General Information RE: Think about it... (Re: Msg 92406) From: WA2EGP To: NETCRUISER Another one living a linear existance...... -*- 92466 25-APR 17:55 General Information RE: Think about it... (Re: Msg 92456) From: NETCRUISER To: WA2EGP but i view time as being multi dimensional... no wait! you suckered me into the conversation! no! i wont talk about stephen hawking! i wont! -*- 92471 25-APR 21:33 General Information RE: Think about it... (Re: Msg 92466) From: WA2EGP To: NETCRUISER (NR) Heh, heh. Well, the last that I read, there may have been as many as 11 dimensions at the time of the formation of the universe but as things cooled off, most folded in on themselves, leaving us with the four. Actually, I like to see any object (with mass) go close to the speed of light, just to see what happens. Yeah, I know they have gotten subatomic particles close, but I'm talkin' real mass! (grin) -*- End of Thread. -*- 92457 24-APR 23:22 General Information RE: Mistaken Smartdrv info. (Re: Msg 92444) From: JMURPHY To: NETCRUISER > may i suggest that this discussion is verging on being off-topic for this > forum? > also, please, let's not start a flame war -- this forum has had enough of > them, and you two seem on the edge. > Um, absolutely. I _am_ way off topic. In my defense, I do tend to get cranky when people say Microsoft sucks, and then give examples of user error, rather than MS error. Sorry for wasting everybody's time on this. John Murphy -*- 92467 25-APR 17:56 General Information RE: Mistaken Smartdrv info. (Re: Msg 92457) From: NETCRUISER To: JMURPHY (sorry i cant resist) -- is MS Error in the MS Office suite? ROTFL but im probably the only one -*- 92503 30-APR 11:54 General Information RE: Mistaken Smartdrv info. (Re: Msg 92424) From: 01GEN40 To: JMURPHY Let's face it, Microsoft puts out inferior software. They know that and that is why they do the things the do. Their personal finance software cannot even come close to the power of Quicken so what do they do? They try to buy Intuits technology and give their inferior technology to someone like Novell! This, just one example of their nasty deeds. Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars... LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! Peace and Long Life... Siran of Vulcan (CMDR) -= GEN =- -*- 92510 30-APR 13:27 General Information RE: Mistaken Smartdrv info. (Re: Msg 92503) From: 01GEN40 To: 01GEN40 I aggree with Netcruiser, this thread is finished. I will say that my opinion(s) about Microsoft stands and I respect the opinion of others... So, JMURPHY, as of this message, I will not respond to any others unless they are non-Microsoft in subject. It is intersting reading all the different opinions that others have... See ya among the stars... LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! Peace and Long Life... Siran of Vulcan (CMDR) -= GEN =- -*- End of Thread. -*- 92462 25-APR 01:03 General Information Linux CD From: JHICKLE To: GREGL (NR) From the ads i've seen, some folks are distributing the Linux on CD or diskette and selling support. Checking out a C Users Journal: Linux Systems Labs (810-954-2829) has a 900 phone #, $2.95/min. Lessee, that's $177/hour... probably in the neighborhood of what companies like Data General charge. Even if they're idiots, they're as much help as the big guys . Citrix takes os/2 v2.0, adds multiuser stuff and deletes the graphics crap and resells it for $995. You call them for tech support and they refer you back to the VAR you got it from who, in my experience, are NO HELP AT ALL and often won't return your calls tho they charge you $125 a month for "software support". Don't buy Citrix from ComputeRx in Richmond. Their Citrix guy (Tommy) blames all problems on any hardware you didn't buy from them, Especially if you don't run all your modems and terminals (all one of them) from a $1500 DigiBoard. Or buy a $1500 (magic number?) Exabyte tape drive when a $99 Jumbo will do the job. -*- 92470 25-APR 20:47 General Information OS manuals From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL m a little surprised there are no takers, in my offer to furnis OS manuals to a booth at theh fest. Perhaos thhe booths are full,, or you have some to offer your self. I'll offer theese foro theh price of shipping to UPGRADE MAgazines readers in th next issue. The rest will halp fill theh truck that comes by every Friday. They,,, I'm sure will take 'em. til then,,, Terry g -*- 92483 26-APR 01:48 General Information RE: OS manuals (Re: Msg 92470) From: CARL_D To: MRUPGRADE m a little surprised there are no takers, in my offer to furnis OS manuals to a booth at theh fest. Perhaos thhe booths are full,, or you have some to offer your self. I'll offer theese foro theh price of shipping to UPGRADE MAgazines readers in th next issue. The rest will halp fill theh truck that comes by every Friday. They,,, I'm sure will take 'em. til then,,, Terry g **************************** What manuals are these Terry? What ever it is don't throw it away!!! I'll take a couple. (Won't get a chance to subscribe to UPGRADE until I actually get to the Fest. -*- 92485 26-APR 20:09 General Information RE: OS manuals (Re: Msg 92483) From: MRUPGRADE To: CARL_D I won't be at theh Fest. We ( Mid Iowa & Country CoCo/ The UPGRADE Magazine) do snend at least some finicial,, as well as promo support each year. But Chicago,, is a bit costly,, with my business in swing,, for me that is. I'll probably clear 'em out in theh next UPGRADE. . (~~~~~~~~~~~~))) (---- -----))) l l l\\\\ l l l~~~~ il l l l hen l l l erry g \\\\\\\ ~~~~~~~ * Hooked on phonics works real well * * huked on foniks, a grate wae to spel * -*- 92486 26-APR 20:57 General Information RE: OS manuals (Re: Msg 92485) From: CARL_D To: MRUPGRADE Ok, well see what happens. Maybe I'll pick up a subscription to the mag at Chicago. -*- End of Thread. -*- 92474 25-APR 22:32 General Information PC-forum assistance. From: CHARLESAM To: ALL I know I went and put ny bucks into a PClone. I even went over there to the PC-forum and asked a simple question of a former Cocoist. What I got back was "Golly gee, shucks, you do have a problem". No solution though. Not even a hint. That quote wasn't word for word but the flavor is correct. I was warned. There is no place like this place for friendly assistance. The problem I have now is I won't ask anymore Pc questions here. So, I quess those PC owners here can expect E-mail. This is home. Thank you, Charlie PS- See you all in Elgin. -*- 92488 26-APR 21:08 General Information RE: PC-forum assistance. (Re: Msg 92474) From: ISC To: CHARLESAM I won't ask anymore Pc questions here. So, I quess those PC owners here can > expect E-mail. This is home. Thank you, Charlie > PS- See you all in Elgin. > Email me with PC questions anytime, Charlie. Bill -*- 92492 26-APR 23:26 General Information RE: PC-forum assistance. (Re: Msg 92488) From: CHARLESAM To: ISC I'll definitely do that. I'll jump to mail with one now. Thanx Charlie -*- End of Thread. -*- 92478 26-APR 01:00 General Information CDl BASIC From: NIMITZ To: ALL For those interested in CDL Basic, I'll have copies available for sale and DEMO at the fest. I'll also be bringing some new stuff, a bible program, the Ribbs/OSK beta, an updated KTERM, PUPPO adaptors, and CoCo 512K upgrades, SCSI Hard drives, a floptical drive, and some other nice things..... -*- 92480 26-APR 01:32 General Information RE: CDl BASIC (Re: Msg 92478) From: BOISY To: NIMITZ Cool, David. Loking forward to seeing you there. I'll be delivering the MM/1 port of Planet Engine 1.1 to the DALTRUG folks Friday night, so that will be for sale. It also looks like I'll have LinkUp Ed. 10 ready by the fest also. See you there. -*- 92491 26-APR 23:01 General Information RE: CDl BASIC (Re: Msg 92478) From: REVKAK To: NIMITZ Is the Bible program for OSK or 6x09 flavor OS9? I hope for 6x09. Keith -*- 92495 27-APR 19:46 General Information RE: CDl BASIC (Re: Msg 92480) From: NIMITZ To: BOISY Thanks, Great work on Uplink BTW - now that John's got the ANSI on KTerm up to par, Uplink goes out with all MM/1s.. Thanks! -*- 92496 27-APR 19:46 General Information RE: CDl BASIC (Re: Msg 92491) From: NIMITZ To: REVKAK Unfortunately, it is for OSK only. It is written in CDL Basic. David -*- End of Thread. -*- 92479 26-APR 01:32 General Information OS manuals From: KSCALES To: ALL > m a little surprised there are no takers, in my offer to furnis OS > manuals to a booth at theh fest. Perhaos thhe booths are full,, or you > have some to offer your self. I'm pretty sure that Terry is referring to "OS-9" manuals, in case you were confused. He seems to have a problem with his "9" key. Looks like an offer that will be of interest to anyone who has had their manuals stolen, lost them, or didn't receive a set when they purchased the OS-9 package. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237 -*- 92482 26-APR 01:45 General Information OS-9/68K From: CARL_D To: ALL I was talking to Bill Wittman on the phone yesterday, and he plans to have a working model of his new OS-9/68k computer at the Chicago fest. This sounds like a good choice for a budget entry into OS-9/68k. There was a full description posted here some time ago. ************************** Actually you can probably find a used Atari ST pretty cheap these days. I believe this 68K machine has a version of OS-9 for it. Could be wrong tho' -*- 92493 27-APR 01:21 General Information RE: OS-9/68K (Re: Msg 92482) From: DBREEDING To: CARL_D > Actually you can probably find a used Atari ST pretty cheap > these days. I believe this 68K machine has a version of OS-9 > for it. Could be wrong tho' The only problem with the Atari is that OS9 is ridiculously expensive. I think it's around $600? Didn't look, but I think that's right. You can almost get a terminal system complete with OS9 and all for that price. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** -*- 92498 27-APR 22:45 General Information RE: OS-9/68K (Re: Msg 92482) From: JOHNBAER To: CARL_D I have a old version (2.2) Personal system that I got years ago that cost at that time $150.00 and came with the OS and Basic.. thats it.. no `asm' or `C' or `libs'. It is text only, no graphics, no GUI. In its day it was fun to learn `OSK' on, but I don't know if there are newer versions for the Atari ST anymore. BTW: Kevin Darling did a early window system for it. You got four windows with a shell in each. These windows were text only. John - -*- End of Thread. -*- 92484 26-APR 01:51 General Information RE: OS9000 (Re: Msg 92391) From: AJMLFCO To: BROWN80 Yes, but just because OS9 is availiable for SOME poerePC based (PowerPC) based VME boards does not imply that we will be able to install it on a personal computer and develop software for industrial control systems in the office. I just happen to believe that one would be better off with software that ALSO runs on desktop systems, rather than having to depend on cross-compilers, Unibridge, or what-have-you. I was reading an article tonight by some GM engineers who advocate using Windows NT for the "standard" OS for control systems. They specifically mention OS9 as not being suitable due to it's proprietary nature (like, non-standard) and that it does not use the "standard" Windows GUI. I suppose they want to have Excel spreadsheet and other "standard" applications running on the system. Allen -*- 92502 29-APR 16:08 General Information RE: OS9000 (Re: Msg 92484) From: THETAURUS To: AJMLFCO >>I suppose theyw want to have Excel spreadsheett and other "standard" applications running on the system.<< The only flaw in that logic is that, as I understand it, OS-9000 will allow the execution of just about any Dos and/or Windows program. Unless they know of a way one of those programs might not work under an OS-9 environment, there is no reason OS-9000 can't use the "standard" GUI(you know, the one that will be obsolete next week ). >Chris< -*- 92516 1-MAY 01:14 General Information RE: OS9000 (Re: Msg 92502) From: AJMLFCO To: THETAURUS It is true that one can run Windows under OS-9000, I believe it is only in "real mode"--No extended memory. I have played around with OS-9000 a little and since that was almost a year ago, I have forgotten a lot. Also, it may be changed by now. I did get the impression that it was like having two separate computers, an OS-9000 system and a DOS sytem at the same time. One thing we never got worked out was a clean "tunnel" between the two systems. It was like having two separate computers to such an extent that one might as well have bought two cpu's. Allen -*- End of Thread. -*- 92489 26-APR 22:36 Programmers Den F$Fork & F$Wait From: WDTV5 To: ALL Howdy all; I have a bit of a programming connundrum that I sure could use some help with. My current programming project can launch other programs using the F$Fork system call, but may or may not be asked to synchronize itself with the child process by immediatly doing the F$Wait call. The problem I forsee is that if it chooses not to do the F$Wait because the child launching parameter line contained an ampersand(&) indicating the child is to run concurrently. Having previously attempted to pass the & on to the child, only to have the Wait call return it as the error variable in regs.b, I am now attempting to handle that in the caller instead of the system/child by skipping the Wait instead of passing the & in the parameter area. However, my program still needs to know when the child process dies so it can do any required "cleanup", like telling the shell to shut the logging back off for instance. How can I know when the child process has died without doing the Wait? Cheers all, Gene Heskett -*- 92490 26-APR 22:57 Programmers Den RE: F$Fork & F$Wait (Re: Msg 92489) From: RANDYKWILSON To: WDTV5 Gene, Yep, as you found out, the "&" is a shell switch to not F$Wait. The system doesn't know a thing about it. As far as tracking children without waiting (hand and foot) on them can be done various ways in special cases. I can't think of a generic way to do it... which is probably why shell doesn't. Ah... I got a way... but it requires VRN. Have the parent set up a signal trap, and then open a path to VRN and request a cyclic repeating timer signal. While you have children forked off, periodicly issue a F$Wait. The signal from VRN will wake you back up. When you wake up, test to see if it was a wait return, or a signal. With dedicated parent and child, it would be easier to have the child send a signal to the parent just before exiting. Parent gets signal, issues F$Wait to clean system, then does any final cleanup required. Randy -*- 92499 27-APR 22:58 Programmers Den RE: F$Fork & F$Wait (Re: Msg 92490) From: WDTV5 To: RANDYKWILSON Unforch, that would require re-writing everything in the cmds dir plus a wagon-load of scripts in order to make them return the signal. The vrn idea intrigues me tho, is that in the docs for vrn? Presntly I'm keeping the ID of the child, and doing an F$GProcP each minute to see if I get an error if that ID no longer exists, but its now leaving a DEAD path in the pathtable for each pass thru the loop. In 15 mins the table fills up, and it error 237 time from then till reboot for anything. I'll give that some attention tho, might just be what the doctor ordered. Thanks Randy, Gene -*- End of Thread. -*- 92494 27-APR 16:40 General Information Atari OS-9 From: CARL_D To: DBREEDING Someone else mentioned that. I had no idea it was so expensive, kind of obviates the cheapness of the system. -*- 92497 27-APR 19:54 General Information See you on Saturday, I hope From: JEJONES To: ALL My MM/1a is packed, or I'd use InfoXpress...I hope that I'll see lots of people in Chicago this weekend. Boisy and I will be on our way Friday morning. -*- 92500 27-APR 23:22 General Information LinkUp #10! From: BOISY To: ALL Finally, LinkUp edition 10 has been finished and is now available in the New Uploads section of the database. I'll also be giving out copies of it (and some other cool stuff that Mike Haaland and I have been working on) at the fest. Speaking of the fest, like James said, we're heading out early tomorrow morning. I can't wait! Be on the lookout for cool stuff! -*- 92513 30-APR 20:21 General Information RE: LinkUp #10! (Re: Msg 92500) From: JOHNBAER To: BOISY Boisy, > Finally, LinkUp edition 10 has been finished and is now available in > the New Uploads section of the database. I'll also be giving out copies > of it (and some other cool stuff that Mike Haaland and I have been > working on) at the fest. Could you tell us `what' some of this `other cool stuff' is ? :) I downloaded linkup, and it does look & sound great . Will get back to you after `playing' some more. John - -*- End of Thread. -*- 92501 29-APR 08:18 General Information RE: UUdecoding (Re: Msg 92435) From: TEDJAEGER To: RANDYKWILSON > It's the file attributes, Unix style. In octal. Simplifying a bit, 4 = > read, 2=write, and 1 = execute. Unix has permissions for owner, group, and > public. So in this case, it is owner read/write, and group and public read > only. Thanks for the lesson, Randy. Maybe if I hang around long enough I will learn something! Bests ---TedJaeger -*- 92515 1-MAY 00:52 General Information Fest From: REVWCP To: ALL My dear friends: Once again another Fest has come to a close. It was a wonderful time, and while I am certain that Allen Huffman will once again post his Fest review, I would just like to comment that, from my humble perspective, it was a success. There was new hardware and software. Rick Ulland of Conect debuted the Fast232 serial port, and Northern Exposure had an AT Keyboard Adapter. Nitros9 1.21 was available. And Chris Dekker, an extremely talented programmer, who does a lot of work in Basic09 had several excellent pieces of software, including BasicBoost, which speeds up Basic09/RUNB and ScreenBoost. ScreenBoost, is a "monk-must". It greatly speeds up GRFDRV and does such neat things as horizontal scrolling on type 2 text screens. There were lots of other new things for both OS-9 and OSK. Please forgive me for not mentioning all of you by name, but it is somewhat late for me as I am writing this. On a more personal note, it was certainly a great joy for me to be able to attend. It is always so wonderful to see so many old friends again, and get to put names and faces together of new ones. I would be remiss if I did not publically offer my heartfelt thanks to all who put in so much time and effort to make this fest possible. Glenside, and in particular, Tony Podraza, did an outstanding job. Finally, thank you to all of you for the many acts of kindness which you showed me once again. The warmth of your greetings, the conversations, and the special times we had together are a blessing to me. Your friendships are very precious to me. Thank you for allowing me to be with you and for sharing a part of your life with me. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: With all best wishes, :::::: 2 Kings 2:23-24 ::: :: Brother Jeremy, CSJW ::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: OS9 Users Group Treasurer :: revwcp@delphi.com :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: CIS - 76477,142 ::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -*- 92517 1-MAY 19:45 General Information RE: Fest (Re: Msg 92515) From: CARL_D To: REVWCP I can only echo Br. Jeremy's words. This was my first CoCoFest in ten or so years, and I had a great time. Br. Jeremy's 'Gospel Song' for OS-9 Lv. 3 was something I'll not soon forger. So who's up for Atlanta? -*- 92518 2-MAY 22:52 General Information RE: Fest (Re: Msg 92517) From: REVWCP To: CARL_D Dear Carl: It was a pleasure meeting you. God willing, I will be going to Atlanta this year. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: With all best wishes, :::::: 2 Kings 2:23-24 ::: :: Brother Jeremy, CSJW ::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: OS9 Users Group Treasurer :: revwcp@delphi.com :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: CIS - 76477,142 ::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -*- 92538 7-MAY 12:53 General Information RE: Fest (Re: Msg 92517) From: 01GEN40 To: CARL_D (NR) OS-9 Lv. 3??? Is this, by any chance, for the CoCo 3? If so, I would like to find out more about it! See ya among the stars... LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is! Peace and Long Life... Siran of Vulcan (CMDR) -= GEN =- -*- End of Thread. -*- 92519 2-MAY 23:20 General Information Fest 96 From: REVWCP To: ALL Dear Friends: As I said in a prior post the Spring CoCoFest in Chicago was a wonderful time for me. To that end I would like to direct this to Glenside and all interested parties: I would like to officially register not only as the first attendee for the May 18th and 19th 1996 Fest in Chicago (I already have a room reserved) but I would also like to officially register to be an exhibitor. With all the odd equipment I have managed to accumulate, (The Prototype COCO3's used by Microware to write OS9 Level 2, plus a copy of the never released Level 2 Upgrade) I figure I might as well have a booth. Who knows I might even have a few products to sell. Perhaps a new vendor is on the horizon --M O N K O W A R E- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: With all best wishes, :::::: 2 Kings 2:23-24 ::: :: Brother Jeremy, CSJW ::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: OS9 Users Group Treasurer :: revwcp@delphi.com :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: CIS - 76477,142 ::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -*- 92520 2-MAY 23:30 General Information Fourth "Last" Chicago CoCoFest From: JEJONES To: ALL First, a disclaimer--I didn't take notes, and what I noticed is a function of my personal interests and erratic-at-best observational abilities. The following is going to reflect that, and if I've left anything or anyone out, it's due to my lapses, not by intent. OK? That said, here's my Fourth Annual "Last" Chicago CoCoFest saga. It started long ago in a state far, far away, with two young men amazed that they'd rented such an atrocious video: *Luther the Geek*. Some years later, one of the two, Boisy Pitre, came to work for Microware and found (1) a fan of bad movies among his new coworkers and (2) mirabile dictu, a copy of *Luther the Geek* for rent at a Hy-Vee store. He and the coworker--me--watched the movie and somehow managed to see through tears of laughter as the debits rolled by that (1) the movie is an example of Your Tax Dollars at Work, being a result of the University of Iowa Film Production Project, and (2) the movie was filmed in Stirling and Rock Falls, Illinois. Boisy realized that Stirling was on the scenic route that we took to the Third "Last" CoCoFest in 1994...and it was clear that this year would be a Pilgrimage of sorts. The weather started out gray, but cleared as we entered Illinois, and not long afterward we stopped at the Casey's near the edge of Stirling. I'm constitutionally incapable of keeping a straight face, so I let Boisy ask the lady at the counter. She seemed reluctant to admit that Stirling was the home of *Luther the Geek*--but admitted it, and explained to her younger coworker. For a second she was incredulous that we'd come to Stirling because of the movie, but we assured her this was the path we'd taken for other purposes, and that *Luther* was just icing on the cake, or perhaps I should say the batter on the chicken. We asked her what store a certain scene was filmed in, and she told us Kroger's. That was our next stop, and with a little additional help on the way, we found it. An employee there knew about the movie, but didn't seem terribly enthusiastic. We visited the dairy case, and then went on our way. The best thing about the Fest--meeting friends--started upon our arrival. (I had my first view of Frank Swygert's 1963 Rambler, a beautfully- maintained car.) The Hawkses kindly helped us get into our room, and after dinner, I gave an impromptu demonstration of recursive descent parsing. I was anxious to buy a CD-ROM drive, but Boisy was more so, and he had his installed Friday night! More familiar faces appeared as the evening went on. Mostly technical things that stick out in my mind: 1. The 68306-based computer, running and on display. 2. The HAWKSoft CD-ROM file manager--they sold out of drives in short order. There are LOTS of CD-ROMs containing source code that is begging to be ported out there... 3. Planet Engine running on the MM/1. 4. LA-Term. (*Very* nice looking terminal program.) 5. Ongoing optimizations in NitrOS-9. 6. Brother Jeremy's ongoing work to revive abandoned software...and his musical plea to Kevin Darling (not to be confused with a certain Conway Twitty song, despite having the same first two words). This and the Planet Engine port clearly display that talking to the author and/or vendor of software no longer sold is not only preferable to rationalizing the piracy of so-called "orphanware," it has better results. 7. Chris Dekker's very neat graphics displays (and his setup that uses a serial link to a PClone to let the CoCo use the PClone's hard drive). 8. The continued efforts of vendors and the OS-9 Users Group--they deserve your support. 9. The Iomega Zip drive that Dave Pellerito had hooked up to his MM/1. $200 for an outboard SCSI drive that takes removable media about the size of a 3.5" floppy but holding 100 Mbytes. About 30 ms access time, and the medium is about $20 a shot. (Maybe it's time to sell my floptical...) 10. Frank Swygert's edited and updated printing of Paul Ward's *Start OS-9* under the title *Mastering OS-9 on the Tandy Color Computer 3*. It's a book well worth having, and the only thing I wish were different is the binding--like the Tandy OS-9 manuals, it's a bit too small for the amount of paper therein. This is far from a complete list of all the cool stuff that was there to be had--heck, it doesn't even list all the things I bought (though I didn't buy everything listed; if nothing else, the Zip drive wasn't for sale). I'll have to leave it to others to do a more complete report. In any case, it seemed to me that there were as many people and vendors as last year, and I hope to be in Elgin once again next year. (I know I'll be in Atlanta this October.) Also omitted above is a lot of pleasant conversation and dining with old friends--all of whom I know better than I know the people who live in the condos next to mine. Thanks, and I hope to see you regularly. Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors. -*- 92522 3-MAY 00:41 General Information RE: Fourth "Last" Chicago CoCoFest (Re: Msg 92520) From: CARL_D To: JEJONES Sorry to not have met you at the Fest. I did manage to meet Br. Jeremy, Boisy, ricku, Frank Swygert etc. I'm going to try for Atlanta see you there. -*- 92524 4-MAY 21:28 General Information RE: Fourth "Last" Chicago CoCoFest (Re: Msg 92520) From: TEDJAEGER To: JEJONES (NR) > Mostly technical things that stick out in my mind: > > 1. The 68306-based computer, running and on display. > > 2. The HAWKSoft CD-ROM file manager--they sold out of drives in short > order. There are LOTS of CD-ROMs containing source code that is > begging to be ported out there... > > 3. Planet Engine running on the MM/1. > > 4. LA-Term. (*Very* nice looking terminal program.) > > 5. Ongoing optimizations in NitrOS-9. > > 6. Brother Jeremy's ongoing work to revive abandoned software...and > his musical plea to Kevin Darling (not to be confused with a certain > Conway Twitty song, despite having the same first two words). This > and the Planet Engine port clearly display that talking to the author > and/or vendor of software no longer sold is not only preferable to > rationalizing the piracy of so-called "orphanware," it has better > results. > > 7. Chris Dekker's very neat graphics displays (and his setup that > uses a serial link to a PClone to let the CoCo use the PClone's > hard drive). > > 8. The continued efforts of vendors and the OS-9 Users Group--they > deserve your support. > > 9. The Iomega Zip drive that Dave Pellerito had hooked up to his MM/1. > $200 for an outboard SCSI drive that takes removable media about > the size of a 3.5" floppy but holding 100 Mbytes. About 30 ms > access time, and the medium is about $20 a shot. (Maybe it's > time to sell my floptical...) > > 10. Frank Swygert's edited and updated printing of Paul Ward's *Start > OS-9* under the title *Mastering OS-9 on the Tandy Color Computer 3*. > It's a book well worth having, and the only thing I wish were > different is the binding--like the Tandy OS-9 manuals, it's a bit > too small for the amount of paper therein. > Thanks for the report. My job always keeps me away but I've been checking in here to find out what happened. Looks like it was an exiting Fest with new things still developing! Bests ---TedJaeger -*- 92527 6-MAY 16:18 General Information RE: Fourth "Last" Chicago CoCoFest (Re: Msg 92520) From: JOHNBAER To: JEJONES (NR) James, > 9. The Iomega Zip drive that Dave Pellerito had hooked up to his MM/1. > $200 for an outboard SCSI drive that takes removable media about > the size of a 3.5" floppy but holding 100 Mbytes. About 30 ms > access time, and the medium is about $20 a shot. (Maybe it's > time to sell my floptical...) This Zip drive.. is this a tape drive or what ?? Just wondering.. :) John - -*- 92534 7-MAY 01:48 General Information RE: Fourth "Last" Chicago CoCoFest (Re: Msg 92527) From: MITHELEN To: JOHNBAER It is a removable cartirdge hard drive... similar in concept to Bernulli drive, or flopticals... To the system, it looks just like a hard drive. -- Paul -*- 92535 7-MAY 11:28 General Information RE: Fourth "Last" Chicago CoCoFest (Re: Msg 92534) From: JOHNBAER To: MITHELEN (NR) Thanks Paul. I wasn't sure just _what_ it was after reading James message and still thinking 3.5 disk size :) Better get more coffee to get the brain cells woke up . John - -*- End of Thread. -*- 92523 3-MAY 17:34 General Information Patch_OS9 From: CARL_D To: ALL I'm having trouble even getting started installing the OS9 patches. When I try to edit Bootlist. I get error 215 bad path, this is after doing a chd /d1/modules and a chx /d0/cmds. Any help? -*- 92525 6-MAY 15:48 Games & Graphics RE: Shanghai and Multivue (Re: Msg 88926) From: EARTHER To: ISC I know this reply is late (I spend more time on the CoCoList than on the Forum here). You were having trouble getting Shanghai to run with with Multi-Vue, though it worked fine without it. What have you done since then, if anything? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ______/ ______/ EARTHER ENTERPRISES / / ____/ ____/ Shawn Driscoll / / (619)588-4728 _________/ _________/ earther@delphi.com Programming freeware for OS-9 since 1987. -*- 92532 6-MAY 23:43 Games & Graphics RE: Shanghai and Multivue (Re: Msg 92525) From: ISC To: EARTHER > I know this reply is late (I spend more time on the CoCoList than on the > Forum here). You were having trouble getting Shanghai to run with > with Multi-Vue, though it worked fine without it. What have you done > since then, if anything? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ______/ ______/ EARTHER ENTERPRISES > / / > ____/ ____/ Shawn Driscoll > / / (619)588-4728 > _________/ _________/ earther@delphi.com > > Programming freeware for OS-9 since 1987. > Nice to hear from you again, Shawn. I don't remember now what it was that I did to correct my problem, but Shanghai now runs flawlessly with or without Multi-Vue. Thanks for responding and thanks for writing such a great game program. Bill -*- End of Thread. -*- 92526 6-MAY 15:58 General Information os-9 HALP!!! From: CARL_D To: ALL I need some basic help with OS-9. I've got it running with 40 track/ds drives/80 columns. I've also got Multi-vue going. Now how do I get MV to run on 40T ds drives? -*- 92529 6-MAY 23:03 General Information RE: os-9 HALP!!! (Re: Msg 92526) From: DBREEDING To: CARL_D > I need some basic help with OS-9. I've got it running with 40 track/ds > drives/80 columns. I've also got Multi-vue going. Now how do I get MV to > run on 40T ds drives? It should do so automatically if you have your device descriptors installed. Doesn't it? Do you have your 40T-DS descriptors in your bootfile for your M-V disk? This is all it should take. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** -*- 92533 7-MAY 01:47 General Information RE: os-9 HALP!!! (Re: Msg 92529) From: CARL_D To: DBREEDING (NR) Not so atuomatically at all. MV want's unmodified disks to install on. I edited the bootlist.mv files for 40d.dd but when I try to use os9gen I get error #21 Not sure just what I'm doing wrong. Thanks in advance for any help. -*- End of Thread. -*- 92530 6-MAY 23:17 Users Group 6309 cpu From: WILLIAMSON68 To: ALL Does anyone know if the hd63c09e is compatible with nitros or will nitros run only with the 6309b variety? Beyond that, Does anyone know of or have a spare 6309 chip that they would be willing to part with for monetary renumeration:-> -*- 92531 6-MAY 23:24 System Modules (6809) RE: boots (Re: Msg 90822) From: WILLIAMSON68 To: RICKULAND (NR) Let me know what you need. running 512k 6308 disto & 20+40meg HD. I have origional boots if you need them. -*- FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit>